I never said that the bloodwork pointed towards hypogonadism. I said he had low t SYMPTOMS. When bloodwork shows a TT of 170, like I had before going on trt, it’s easy to point to bloodwork showing hypogonadism. But what do you do if someone has tt of 535, yet has a history of steroid use...
Megatron28 wrote:
“Because what you keep failing to recognize and acknowledge is that many ailments can have the exact same symptoms that one experiences with hypogonadism. We have hard evidence in his blood work that hypogonadism is LIKELY not the cause of his symptoms.”
No, I do not fail to...
Megatron28 wrote:
“LOL. You are really stuck on this one aren't you! Why do you want him to inject his testosterone so badly? His body is producing enough on it's own to put him at 534ng/dl. Is testosterone from a vial somehow superior to the testosterone your body produces naturally? Why shut...
Still a lot safer to trt testosterone, than caber, don’t you think?
Drugs are poison. Try to avoid them altogether. At least you’re open to him trying trt, unlike Megatron28, who dismisses trt altogether.
Just because he’s “in range” for total t and free t, that doesn’t mean his symptoms aren’t caused by low t. With his history of AAS use, what would it hurt to try trt at this point? What’s the downside? He has classic low t symptoms. Certainly saying that he doesn’t need trt just because his...
So, you’re telling me that you don’t understand that natural production of testosterone doesn’t correlate with exogenous testosterone? “Supraphysiological” levels really don’t mean a whole lot when it comes to comparing natural and exogenous.
Megatron28 wrote:
“So you would put someone on TRT just to get him back to the same level that his body is already producing naturally? ”
No, of course not. If his symptoms are low T, then he should be given the lowest dose that will alleviate his symptoms. The total t level is irrelevant...
Try to find a doctor that will treat your symptoms, not one that tries to get you into a “range” on a scale. There are certain people who need to be at a level higher than mid-range on scale. Some people need more T to alleviate their symptoms, just like there are some people who need less.
You basically told him that since his total t is in range, and not “low”, then he’s not suffering from low t symptoms.
That’s just irresponsible. You can’t just dismiss the possibility of low t symptoms, just because his number is in some “normal” range.
The guy has multiple low t symptoms, but his total t(the number) looks “fine”, so you’ve concluded that he doesn’t need trt?
Seriously? He has low t symptoms. Doctors are supposed to treat symptoms, not shoot for some “magic number” on a total t scale. I can see it now:
Patient: “Doc, I...
I don’t understand what you’re asking.
I literally just agreed with that when I said that for 6+ years, I didn’t have anyone explain how high E2 while having elevated test levels on trt, IS NOT harmful.
Btw, the geocentric model was accepted for a while too. How’d that turn out?
How is the...
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