1st cycle concerns and stuff

n8te pac

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Hey guys, im about to start my 1st ever cycle i was planing to do tbol with test e at 500mg for 10 week cycle (5 for tbol) have nolvadex and hcg for pct.

Now that i have the stuff i read alot if stuff on here and now i think i might not be ready, i let myself go im in 15-20 percent bodyfat i think that may be too high and im scared shitless bout high rbc..

One more thing is i can only get one blood test per year here in canada and i dont wanna travel far and pay alot of money for it plus no one here does it im amazed that i found a guy that does pct.

Im 23
Stats
315 bench
405 squat prob can do more
495 deadlift
210pounds
High 15 bf no higher then 20

Thanks
 
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http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

Read this. Every single word, and every link.

You are too young still technically and by the sounds of it, you're clueless about PCT, and intra cycle substances which is a huge red flag. You could probably diet down to 12-13%, do a few natty bulk and cuts, and hold off till you're 25 and know a lot more on this subject.

Consider purchasing a plan through 3J and he can run you to the top all natural sir. He's very good.

Also, what is your height?
 
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Sorry, for some reason three passes of reading and I missed the Nolva and HCG. Read that post I linked you.

You need Clomid and Nolva for PCT.

HCG is to be taken while on cycle as it shuts the HPTA down. Also you need an AI.

In a first cycle you run test only + everything listed above. You don't know how you'll react to the Test, or the TBol, so how will you know which one is causing a problem if one were to arise? So, as Test is necessary in every cycle, you do that alone first, then add more 1by1 substance/cycle later.
 
Alright thanks man, but just one thing i read that u can use nolva as ai is that true sorry for bad english im french, oh and for the blood test thing female hormone panel how does that work ? Im thinking of ordering that how many will i need ?
 
The panel isn't something that comes to you. It's an appointment scheduled with a lab to have blood drawn. I don't know that in Canada there are places available, someone else here may know better.

No, Nolva is a SERM.

An AI is something like Arimidex, Aromasin, or Letrozole.
 
Hey guys, im about to start my 1st ever cycle i was planing to do tbol with test e at 500mg for 10 week cycle (5 for tbol) have nolvadex and hcg for pct.

Now that i have the stuff i read alot if stuff on here and now i think i might not be ready, i let myself go im in 15-20 percent bodyfat i think that may be too high and im scared shitless bout high rbc..

One more thing is i can only get one blood test per year here in canada and i dont wanna travel far and pay alot of money for it plus no one here does it im amazed that i found a guy that does pct.

Im 23
Stats
315 bench
405 squat prob can do more
495 deadlift
210pounds
High 15 bf no higher then 20

Thanks

So here's what's up. You're too young to start. Your balls have a lot of natural test that you need for your age. Also, you need an AI such as aromasin to take while you're ON your cycle. Clomid and Nolvadex are taken 2 weeks after your cycle ends. You can also pin HCG throughout your cycle as well. Don't do this, if you decide to, half-ass and fuck yourself up. Go into with everything ready and take everything like you're suppose to do so. Stick to just test since this would be your first. Get your diet in check and go do some push-ups.
 
bodyfat too high for aas use. the higher your bodyfat is the more prone you are to estrogenic side effects, and chances are you're gonna look like a big fat bloof ball not that you dont already. drop to a lower bodyfat and then hit it
 
Alright thanks man, but just one thing i read that u can use nolva as ai is that true sorry for bad english im french, oh and for the blood test thing female hormone panel how does that work ? Im thinking of ordering that how many will i need ?

nolva is NOT an AI..... it BLOCK some places for estrogen but not lower it.. you need an AI. nolva is a SERM.
good luck
 
You should get back to that, do a natural bulk, get older, and continue researching until you are of age. Lots to learn on here..
 
You are too young to start before you are 25. Listen to what others are telling you here. You will save yourself a lot of trouble later on.
 
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