1st cycle with reasoning and justification (I hope)

[motawa]

The Nolva should last atleast 2 weeks after the last HCG shot, since HCG by itself converts into estrogen, so i believe dropping the 14th week HCG is better. You can also drop the HCG the first 2 weeks since it takes couple of weeks for the balls to stop working. But the way you are doing it works too ofcourse. You can also mix the test and hcg in one shot incase you dont like injecting yourself alot.

 

[estray]

Well, I woudn't keep doing the HCG in PCT. But others might disagree.

I say cut the hcg out at week 12.

 

[DADAWG]

OK round 3

Thoms - Thanks for the info on Apex, upping the dosage to 500mg/wk but will still keep the HCG (got big nuts and what to keep them), but I've halved the dosage for post cycle therapy (pct). Also pushed post cycle therapy (pct) back by 2 weeks, forgot that Test Eth stays in the body for so long, thanks for pointing that out.

Warmachine - Switched the Proviron for AIFM, from your previous posts its sounds like you've had very positive effects from it. If you've got any more info on it would be great to hear about it.

HeHateMe - Do I continue with the low level of HCG for the 2 weeks after the last inject and before starting post cycle therapy (pct)? Would I start Nolvadex straight after the first inject or again wait 2 weeks for post cycle therapy (pct)?

Outlawtas2 - With HCG running through the cycle do I need the higher doses at the end? If so, is the 1500IU's/750IU's tapered dosages enough or should they be doubled?

...Test Eth............HCG......................................Nolvadex
1:.500mg (Mon).....250IU’s x 2 (Mon/Thur)..............20mg ED (if needed)
2:.500mg (Mon).....250IU’s x 2 (Mon/Thur)..............20mg ED (if needed)
3:.500mg (Mon).....250IU’s x 2 (Mon/Thur)..............20mg ED (if needed)
4:.500mg (Mon).....250IU’s x 2 (Mon/Thur)..............20mg ED (if needed)
5:.500mg (Mon).....250IU’s x 2 (Mon/Thur)..............20mg ED (if needed)
6:.500mg (Mon).....250IU’s x 2 (Mon/Thur)..............20mg ED (if needed)
7:.500mg (Mon).....250IU’s x 2 (Mon/Thur)..............20mg ED (if needed)
8:.500mg (Mon).....250IU’s x 2 (Mon/Thur)..............20mg ED (if needed)
9:.500mg (Mon).....250IU’s x 2 (Mon/Thur)..............20mg ED (if needed)
10:500mg (Mon)....250IU’s (Mon), 250IU’s (Thur)......20mg ED (if needed)
11:.....................250IU’s (Mon), 250IU’s (Thur)......20mg ED (if needed)
12:.....................1500IU’s (Mon), 1500IU’s (Sat)....40mg ED
13:.....................750IU’s (Thur),.........................40mg ED
14:.....................750IU’s (Tues)..........................20mg ED
15:..................................................................20mg ED

Anti Estrogen: AIFM 1-3 pumps per day depending on how things go. Start at 2 and adjust accordingly.

Thanks again guys for helping me get on the right track.

Cheers,

Carl

dont up you hcg in weeks 11-14 and stop it completely at week 12 , it will interfere with your recovery from post cycle therapy (pct) . othr than that i would jkepp nolva at 20 mg until week 13 the up it to 40 for 3 weeks