A.I or SERM ..... at the onset of Gyno?

[Maroon Warrior]

Hey there.
I have done my research and read the boards but everytime I research up on this tingly little subject I get many different answers. I also read the stickies. However I am still in need of some advice from some of you big cats out there!

I am one of the unfortunates that is susceptible to Gyno. I accept that and as a result sensibly take precautions and use an A.I from day one of starting my cycle which incidentally is x10 weeks test 400 and 30mg per day of dbol. The A.I I use is Adex and take 0.5mg every other day (breaking one of those 1mg tabs in half) So pretty straight forward simple stuff eh?

However at week 7 I got them dreaded tingly nips so binned the Adex and went straight onto Letro as allegedly its the king of sorting Gyno out. However Letro hasn't really done it for me :-(

I have done some research and folk on many of these boards are saying at the onset of gyno to start taking a SERM immediately like Tamoxifen and come off the A.I whereas others say taking Tamoxifen at the onset of gyno is like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted and to use gyno.

Sooooo as you can see I'm all at sea on this one and have 2 schools of thought here. For info I have now binned the Letro (after 2 useless months!) and started the Tamoxifen (5 days into this at 40mg for the first week then 20mg a day for the 2nd & 3rd ... continuing on until hopefully symptoms subside)

For my next cycle I intend to take 1mg a day of Adex until the end of my cycle which should hopefully prevent re-occurrence.

So at the onset of gyno what do the masses believe is the best form of treatment and A.I or a SERM?

 

[tbonexl]

I don't know if u got confused while researching but I don't know who would recommend stopping an ai during cycle in favor of nolva. An ai manages e2 levels. A serm like nolva blocks it from binding to receptors. It does shit for lowering or managing e2.

Stay on your ai (adex) during cycle. Bloodwork will show what's up with your estrogen levels. Seems like your just guessing. If u happen to get gyno symptoms, u can start nolva @ 40mgs for 2 weeks then drop down to 20mgs till all is good. Don't stop taking your ai.

 

[luckypaul]

Bro every time you run a cycle you must use an AI. Since you are sensitive to E2, that means adex at 0.5 mg ed. You may have to go 1 mg ed If you are very sensitive.

What nolva will do is block receptors, and help prevent gyno at the affected area, like you describe. What you need to do is continue either adex or aromasin starting now. 12.5 mg aromasin, or 0.5 mg adex ed,and maybe 1mg adex ed if you are very sensitive.

Since you are using 0.5 mg eod you can double that and it may help, if the AI you using is legit. Unfortunately there is a lot of bullshit products out there.
Could be you have some stuff that is underdosed or even entirely bogus. I hope that isn't the case, but is something you may need to consider.

Keep us informed and we can help you, but you need to get on top of this and sooner than later.

LP

 

[juced_porkchop]

Hey there.
I have done my research and read the boards but everytime I research up on this tingly little subject I get many different answers. I also read the stickies. However I am still in need of some advice from some of you big cats out there!

I am one of the unfortunates that is susceptible to Gyno. I accept that and as a result sensibly take precautions and use an A.I from day one of starting my cycle which incidentally is x10 weeks test 400 and 30mg per day of dbol. The A.I I use is Adex and take 0.5mg every other day (breaking one of those 1mg tabs in half) So pretty straight forward simple stuff eh?

However at week 7 I got them dreaded tingly nips so binned the Adex and went straight onto Letro as allegedly its the king of sorting Gyno out. However Letro hasn't really done it for me :-(

I have done some research and folk on many of these boards are saying at the onset of gyno to start taking a SERM immediately like Tamoxifen and come off the A.I whereas others say taking Tamoxifen at the onset of gyno is like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted and to use gyno.

Sooooo as you can see I'm all at sea on this one and have 2 schools of thought here. For info I have now binned the Letro (after 2 useless months!) and started the Tamoxifen (5 days into this at 40mg for the first week then 20mg a day for the 2nd & 3rd ... continuing on until hopefully symptoms subside)

For my next cycle I intend to take 1mg a day of Adex until the end of my cycle which should hopefully prevent re-occurrence.

So at the onset of gyno what do the masses believe is the best form of treatment and A.I or a SERM?

Starting letro will take a few weeks to notice IMO. if gyno flair up sure start a low dose serm, but dont stop the AI, if anything raise the dose a little, give it a few weeks, then back off the serm and see how you do.
I would rec 0.6mg-1.2mg eod-e3d of letro (I rec RUI, its easy to dose and works well) as an AI if you are very susceptible to this issue normally 0.25mg-0.6mg eod-e3d is good for most.

 

[JimiThing]

Continue to manage estrogen with an ai. As juced said up the dose slightly. Incorporate either raloxifene or tamoxifen. So take your ai and add a serm. If you are that gyno prone you may need to run both with all your cycles. There is nothing wrong with taking 10mg tamox/day along with your ai throughout your cycles.
I t would be nice if you had blood work so you could approach this more prudently as far as dosages etc.