Drveejay11
Community Veteran
Thoughts/Opinions...let's hear them 
(Assuming DIET is in check)
(Assuming DIET is in check)
Anavar vs Tren for Fatloss
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Drveejay11
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My first cycle with fina, I ate a whole pizza every day. I mean every single day. It was a bulking cycle so I figure what the hell.
My bf did not go up at all, and probably went down a little.
Never used anavar (I wish I could) so I cant comment.
My bf did not go up at all, and probably went down a little.
Never used anavar (I wish I could) so I cant comment.
slobberknocker
pro powerlifter
Well, I've never used Anavar (var), so I can't compare. But I can keep my diet and workout the exact same, throw in fina, and I get noticeably leaner and harder. Wish I had the money for some Anavar (var), so I could compare.
BUFFDAWG10
Rookie
I would say if you compared the two and look at price and it's effectiveness, I would go with Tren over Anavar (var) anyday!!!!!!!!!!!
nekrawulf
New member
Id have to say that for Fat loss, they are comparable. For increasing hardness I personally think that anavar has tren beat,...hands down.
BUT, when you take into consideration the price variation between the 2.....I pick tren every time.....anavar just didnt impress me for its great price.
BUT, when you take into consideration the price variation between the 2.....I pick tren every time.....anavar just didnt impress me for its great price.
Heres a post from Jguns on Tren and fat burining:
We have all heard about how Tren supposedly has magic fat burning capabilities, but have been with very little information as to how this supposedly takes place.
One of the biggest factors is the Androgen Receptor. Specifically, an Anabolic Steroids ability to bind to the AR plays a role in how much adipose tissue is reduced.
Most androgens interact with the AR and the GR (glucocortisoid receptor). The AR is present in not only muscle tissue, but in fat as well.
“In conclusion, this study clearly demonstrates the presence of AR in human preadipocytes and adipocytes and suggests that androgens may contribute, through regulation of their own receptors, to the control of adipose tissue development.”
Androgen receptors in human preadipocytes and adipocytes: regional specificities and regulation by sex steroids.
Am J Physiol. 1998 Jun;274(6 Pt 1):C1645-52.
This next study shows that the more AR’s , the more lipid uptake is inhibited:
Androgen hormone binding to adipose tissue in rats.
Biochim Biophys Acta. 1995 May 11;1244(1):117-20.
The first study shows that the more affinity and androgen has for the AR the more the AR in adipocytes upregulates. Theus the greater the Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) binds to the AR, the more upregulation of AR in adipcytes occurs (my leap). This would be a primary reason why tren seems to work so well in this regard, and would lead to a significant reduction in sub cutaneous adipose tissue.
Another reason that tren and other Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) that bind tightly to the AR could help with fat loss is that that decrease LPL lipoprotein lipasel) which is an enzyme that causes lipid accumulation
The effects of androgens on the regulation of lipolysis in adipose precursor cells.
Endocrinology. 1990 Feb;126(2):1229-34.
They may also decrease acetyl-CoA Carboxylase and Fatty Acid Sythetase
Effect of anabolic steroids on lipogenic and lipolytic enzymes in sheep tissues.
Horm Metab Res. 1982 Jan;14(1):52-3.
As for how the GR comes into play: The binding of cortisol to the GR can cause an increase in LPL. Thus, certain androgens may prevent lipid accumulation by binding to the GR.
Characterization of regional and gender differences in glucocorticoid receptors and lipoprotein lipase activity in human adipose tissue.
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1994 Jun;78(6):1354-9.
The effects of cortisol on the regulation of lipoprotein lipase activity in human adipose tissue.
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1994 Sep;79(3):820-5.
Effects of physiological hypercortisolemia on the regulation of lipolysis in subcutaneous adipose tissue.
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1998 Feb;83(2):626-31.
Studies have shown that Tren binds to the AR even more tightly then test or nandrolone, so this is one reason why tren is good at fat loss. The thing that makes it unique is that it has been shown to bind avidly to the GR as well, which makes it even better.
Binding of glucocorticoid antagonists to androgen and glucocorticoid hormone receptors in rat skeletal muscle.
J Steroid Biochem. 1986 Feb;24(2):481-7
Evidence for sex-dependent anabolic response to androgenic steroids mediated by muscle glucocorticoid receptors in the rat.
J Steroid Biochem. 1988 Jun;29(6):575-81
__________________
Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him- "The Art of War" Sun Tzu
We have all heard about how Tren supposedly has magic fat burning capabilities, but have been with very little information as to how this supposedly takes place.
One of the biggest factors is the Androgen Receptor. Specifically, an Anabolic Steroids ability to bind to the AR plays a role in how much adipose tissue is reduced.
Most androgens interact with the AR and the GR (glucocortisoid receptor). The AR is present in not only muscle tissue, but in fat as well.
“In conclusion, this study clearly demonstrates the presence of AR in human preadipocytes and adipocytes and suggests that androgens may contribute, through regulation of their own receptors, to the control of adipose tissue development.”
Androgen receptors in human preadipocytes and adipocytes: regional specificities and regulation by sex steroids.
Am J Physiol. 1998 Jun;274(6 Pt 1):C1645-52.
This next study shows that the more AR’s , the more lipid uptake is inhibited:
Androgen hormone binding to adipose tissue in rats.
Biochim Biophys Acta. 1995 May 11;1244(1):117-20.
The first study shows that the more affinity and androgen has for the AR the more the AR in adipocytes upregulates. Theus the greater the Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) binds to the AR, the more upregulation of AR in adipcytes occurs (my leap). This would be a primary reason why tren seems to work so well in this regard, and would lead to a significant reduction in sub cutaneous adipose tissue.
Another reason that tren and other Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) that bind tightly to the AR could help with fat loss is that that decrease LPL lipoprotein lipasel) which is an enzyme that causes lipid accumulation
The effects of androgens on the regulation of lipolysis in adipose precursor cells.
Endocrinology. 1990 Feb;126(2):1229-34.
They may also decrease acetyl-CoA Carboxylase and Fatty Acid Sythetase
Effect of anabolic steroids on lipogenic and lipolytic enzymes in sheep tissues.
Horm Metab Res. 1982 Jan;14(1):52-3.
As for how the GR comes into play: The binding of cortisol to the GR can cause an increase in LPL. Thus, certain androgens may prevent lipid accumulation by binding to the GR.
Characterization of regional and gender differences in glucocorticoid receptors and lipoprotein lipase activity in human adipose tissue.
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1994 Jun;78(6):1354-9.
The effects of cortisol on the regulation of lipoprotein lipase activity in human adipose tissue.
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1994 Sep;79(3):820-5.
Effects of physiological hypercortisolemia on the regulation of lipolysis in subcutaneous adipose tissue.
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1998 Feb;83(2):626-31.
Studies have shown that Tren binds to the AR even more tightly then test or nandrolone, so this is one reason why tren is good at fat loss. The thing that makes it unique is that it has been shown to bind avidly to the GR as well, which makes it even better.
Binding of glucocorticoid antagonists to androgen and glucocorticoid hormone receptors in rat skeletal muscle.
J Steroid Biochem. 1986 Feb;24(2):481-7
Evidence for sex-dependent anabolic response to androgenic steroids mediated by muscle glucocorticoid receptors in the rat.
J Steroid Biochem. 1988 Jun;29(6):575-81
__________________
Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him- "The Art of War" Sun Tzu
BUFFDAWG10
Rookie
I think we all can agree that both Tren & Anavar (var) are great as far as results and mg. for mg. Anavar (var) may be better, but I definitely agree with RH that not everybody can afford the cost of Anavar (var). I am very satisfied with the Tren, in fact I love the stuff!
BUFFDAWG10
Rookie
JohnnyB said:
Hey JB, you won't be disappointed, it's great stuff!
bigdaddy22
New member
damn what the hell do you do for a living? *0mg of Anavar (var) must cost you a grip, how long did you run it for? 2wks?
male stripper at an all male 
club. He must do well to make that kinda dough. I think fantom is his "assistant". 
Drveejay11
Community Veteran
Heyyo said:
Geez..................sounds familiar. Mvmaxx is too good for me now too!
LOL........seriously MV, what happened to all the love?
Serenity Head
New member
I cant wait to make enough money so that I dont know what does what...I just pop a handful of pills and watch myself grow!
