Best cycle to Increase vertical leap???

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FastMike1128

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Looking to increase vertical leap. What is the optimal cycle for increasing leg power and explosivness? From what I've read, Test seems to be the favorite. Would stacking Eq help? I've also heard people make a case for adding var. Any input will be greatly appreciated.
 
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No amount of gear will help half as much as training on the VERTIMAX period.

Gear isnt your magic bullet. Proper training is everything.
 
I KNOW GEAR ISN'T A MAGIC BULLET... I have been dedicated to training my leap for the past 6 years and I've successfully completed numerous plyometric programs, jumpsoles, air-alert, I have all the best trainng equipment and I am very familiar with PROPER TRAINING and dieting. Over the years I have added over 12 inches to my standing vertical leap. My vertical leap is currently at 36 inches... So thank you for trying to be helpful but I would prefer some advice from someone who actually wants to help answer my questions and not patronize me. I already have Test E, Eq, and Anavar (var) with Clomid and Nolva for post cycle therapy (pct). I would simply like to know what would help achieve my goals best.. From what I've researched, I know that test alone would help a great deal, but if Eq or Anavar (var) could be beneficial as well, I would put them to use. I just don't know what dosages would be sufficient.
 
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FastMike1128 said:
I KNOW GEAR ISN'T A MAGIC BULLET... I have been dedicated to training my leap for the past 6 years and I've successfully completed numerous plyometric programs, jumpsoles, air-alert, I have all the best trainng equipment and am very familiar with PROPER TRAINING and dieting. Over the years I have added over 12 inches to my standing vertical leap. My vertical leap is currently at 38 inches... So thank you for trying to be helpful but I would prefer some advice from someone who actually wants to help answer my questions and not patronize me. I already have Test E, Eq and Anavar (var) on hand and would simply like to know what would help achieve my goals best.. From what I've researched, I know that test alone would help a great deal, but if Eq or Anavar (var) could be beneficial as well, I would put them to use. I just don't know what dosages would be sufficient.
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Increased muscular strength from Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is naturally going to help your explosiveness, quickness, and speed so long as you train for specifically for them. The only issue I would see coming from using Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is weight gain that will slow you down.

As an example, I'm just over 6'3" and weight a muscular 245 lbs. In high school I was ~190 lbs and could do a 360 dunk without much of a problem at all. Now, I'm much stronger (probably about 50% stronger in every lift) but almost 60 pounds heavier. I would be lucky if I could dunk a volleyball right now.

So with that being said, if you could keep your weight the same, but dramatically increase your strength in your legs and core, you might see some benefit. But being as you want to use AAS, weight gain is almost certain, unless you plan on cutting hard, in which strength gain is minimized.
 
Thanks, I agree with you completely, this is why I don't want to gain more than 15-20lbs. I can already dunk a basketball but definitely not with ease... From what I've read about Anavar (var), you can increase strength with little weight gains. I was leaning towards a low dose a test, maybe 250mg + Anavar (var) for 10-12 weeks. By the way I'm 5'8 at 160lbs, 9% bf and this would also be my first cycle... The question is.. If the test will help, how much test? How much Var?
 
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low dose of test along with Winstrol (winny) or Anavar (var) used in conjuction with plyo training.
 
Thanks for the info, but what exactly would be considered a low dose for me? 250mg or more? How much var?

I was thinking..
wk: 1-12 - 250mg Test E
wk: 1-12 - 20-30mg Var
wk: 14-15 - 50mg Clomid ED??? Not sure what would be sufficient for PCT..

Please critique...
 
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Thanks for the info, but what exactly would be considered a low dose for me? 250mg or more? How much var?

I was thinking..
wk: 1-12 - 250mg Test E
wk: 1-12 - 20-30mg Var
wk: 14-15 - 50mg Clomid ED??? Not sure what would be sufficient for PCT..

Please critique...
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you would want more Anavar (var) (50mg/day is a good starting point), and because of its short half life, you will be able to run it to a couple days before your post cycle therapy (pct) would start
 
I wasnt trying to patronize you at all. Try re-reading the first sentence of my last post again. I wasnt trying to flame you. You'll be able to tell the difference I can assure you.

"No amount of gear will help half as much as training on the VERTIMAX period."

Nowhere in there did I say that gear wont help in any way, but I did state that training is far more important and I also attempted to guide you to a training aid that is hands down the best training aid on the market for training explosive movements. Find a Vertimax unitand train on it if all you are trying to achieve is a few more inches on your vertical.
http://www.vertimax.com/index.html

Keep in mind what another poster already brought up which is the law of diminishing returns. If you go the gear route you will at some point reach where you will not jump any higher due to the increased muscle mass that you will be carrying. My guess is that you realize this already and know that you are probably already at that point which is why you do not want to gain anymore weight. That being said I think that Anavar (var) is your best bet. Stay away from winny.

May I ask what you are training for? People dont just do vertical jumps for the hell of it.
 
Ok, Thanks, so the 250mg of test is good? Sorry that I took offense to you earlier Strega.. Wasn't having a good day. 80mg sounds kind of high, others have said 50 to start.. Should I maybe build up to that?? I have the 10mg tabs of Anavar (var), is it better to take those spaced evenly throughout the day? I also read that Anavar (var) can decrease you appetite, is this true? Would Tbol be as good a compliment for this cycle as Var?
 
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Ok, Thanks, so the 250mg of test is good? I have the 10mg tabs of Anavar (var), is it better to take those spaced evenly throughout the day? I also read that Anavar (var) can decrease you appetite, is this true? Would Tbol be as good a compliment for this cycle as Var?
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Be careful with the appetite if your not looking to gain weight...
 
minumum of 50mg/day of Anavar (var) and 150-200mg week of test is plenty. I wouldnt run Anavar (var) for 12 weeks either, thatll likely wreck your hdl. RUn the Anavar (var) for 8 weeks, stop the test at 6 and start post cycle therapy (pct) at end of week 8. clomid 150mg for first couple days, 100mg for rest of week then 50mg for remaining 2 weeks.
 
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I was thinking of halo also. Halo is known for giving a lot of strength gains with little weight gain. I'm also thinking Anavar (var) and Winstrol (winny) to help. I've heard of some people running Anavar (var) and Winstrol (winny) together when they are cutting...this combination may be a good one for your jumping abilities.
 
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minumum of 50mg/day of Anavar (var) and 150-200mg week of test is plenty. I wouldnt run Anavar (var) for 12 weeks either, thatll likely wreck your hdl. RUn the Anavar (var) for 8 weeks, stop the test at 6 and start post cycle therapy (pct) at end of week 8. clomid 150mg for first couple days, 100mg for rest of week then 50mg for remaining 2 weeks.
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Just one question.. Why run the test for only 6 weeks? I thought you only start seeing results at week 4..
 
FastMike1128 said:
Just one question.. Why run the test for only 6 weeks? I thought you only start seeing results at week 4..
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with a low dose of test the idea is not to get results off it but just to replace what your body has quit making as a result of taking the Var.
 
Due to the negative effect the Anavar (var) will have on my liver, should I be taking milk thistle during cycle or just during PCT?
 
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