well im not sure which product your referiing to, but i googled it and by the looks of it the product doesnt already contain creatine. if you want to take creatine along with it then take 10mg ED, but i wouldnt suggest taking it pre workout with the NO product, you would be much better of taking it post work out with your post work out shake, ofrif you prefer to eat after a work out you could always drink it with 250ml of fruit juice(post work). i personally would put 10mg in with my post work out protein shake.