Clomid for HRT

[mfwar1]

Hi guys I recently started HRT with my doctors approval as I had a vericoccele that prompted my testosterone to go down over the last few years. I have not had great success with the testosterone as my doc won't prescribe injections, only transdermal and my estrogen has spiked a bit, and because it's compounding it's been inconsistent as far as morning blood tests. I thought I might be young enough to get some success with clomid although no-one in aus will prescribe that for low test. I went ahead and bought 200 pills (25mg) online and now I'm wondering if it was such a good idea. I was going to base my dosage of a research study done in the US on young males at 25mg every second day, going to 50 if levels aren't raised. I would have to pretend I was still on the cream, so I could get regular bloods done, would there be anything I could do to minimize risk? I also have 3000iu of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in my fridge, my doc think 1500 iu every 3 months will stop my balls from atrophy but I am sceptical. I have frozen some sperm in case it all goes wrong, but ultimately I would like to conceive one day the proper way, hence wanting to try clomid. Any long term users out there?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

If your primary the HCG will not do anything for you. Clomiphene is an option for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) but most guys do not get the positive libido effects even if they get there numbers in range. This could be due to the estrogenic affect of Clomiphene, but in reality we don't really know why yet.

 

[mfwar1]

There is a study which links HCG with leydigg cell repair that I read but it is old. I am seeing a new endo tmrw, apparently she is the best. Thanks for the tip on libido, I haven't really had any libido change so far on transdermals, but the ED side of things has certainly decreased.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

There is a study which links HCG with leydigg cell repair that I read but it is old. I am seeing a new endo tmrw, apparently she is the best. Thanks for the tip on libido, I haven't really had any libido change so far on transdermals, but the ED side of things has certainly decreased.

Well good luck and I hope you get it sorted, most endo's are clueless with this stuff.

If all else fails I can help you do a proper HPTA normalization.

 

[mfwar1]

That would be awesome. I'll let you know, I think I would like to try something like that even if she does prescribe me testosterone injections. She might be on-board with a restart anyway, but it's unlikely. Australia is pretty behind on this, apparently being outside reference ranges for a 23 year old male who is exercising almost every day according to one endo I saw is normal and has nothing to do with the depression ED and mental and physical fatigue. He recommended viagra and ssris. fml.

 

[haritec]

@The-Det-Oak

hi mate - just joined and am curious about what you mean by proper HPTA normalization. I can certainly post bloods and all that stuff but in a nutshell I am a 52 yr old - fairly lean and fit 5'08" 160 lbs - work out regularly.
Total test near the midpoint of range - Free Testosterone at very bottom of range, Bio-available test below bottom of range, SHBG above top of range. So... definitely some issues there. Thyroid (TSH, Free T3, Free T4 all in) normal ranges - I think both TSH and free T3 could stand to be a bit higher - have not been using any iodized salts for years so added those in to see if it will help. AM Cortisol above midpoint of range - maybe should be a bit higher.

Anyways - don't mean to Hijack this thread - but was curious what you meant and whether we should talk.