Criticize my ideas for the 1st cycle, please

[Foffail]

So, i think to do my 1st course. I don't want getting much side effects, so dosages will not be high.


IDEA # 1
Make the blood work before it all. Testosterone/progestatin/estrogen, right ?
10 weeks of Omnadren 250 (250 mg per week, from one pin)
Well, i want to save my hair, so i need to add some dutasteride / propecia, right ?
Anastrozole, because i don't want to have gyno, how much and how often ?
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after the last pin
- one week of nothing (or two weeks ? )
- 4 weeks of clomid 40mg per day. Or maybe tamoxifen 20mg (is it ok for my liver ?).

IDEA # 2
the same, but with 20mg of d-bol each day

IDEA # 3
Oxandrolone 30 mg per day for 6 weeks (i know, that will not add much to my muscle mass, but it add some relief without steight loss). If it is my first cycle, maybe it will add some mass too ?))
PCT - clomid 40 mg per day



Please, feel free say all what you want about it. Which one is better ?

Also 2 question:
1) do i need HCG ?
2) if i'l use d-bol, what can i do for my liver ?

 

[Foffail]

And one more question: when i can to do the next cycle ? Right after the moment, i will see that Testosterone/progestatin/estrogen are looks like before cycle ?

 

[SamSport]

you will regret only running 250. And I mean it. State your age and weight and bodyfat. run 500mg test e/c /week split in 2 injects. I'd rather run 500 mg week alone than 250mg week with Dbol. Forget about oral only, waste of money and time. You don't NEED an HCG, you can get away without it. There's nothing you can really do for your liver when running an oral, other than not running it for 10 weeks. I guess some N acetyl cystein wouldn't be a bad idea. The ''rule of thumb'' you will find on every forum for time between cycle is.. Time on (including pct) = time off. So if you run Test E for 12 weeks, wait 2 week, run pct for 4 weeks, that makes 18 weeks Time on. So you should be 18 week off.

 

[DreDay187]

As Samsport mentioned, full stats are needed to make the advice more tailored to you.

 

[Foffail]

State your age and weight and bodyfat

right now i am 24 / 90 kg / don't know, about 20%, i don't see abs pack. But it is not my normally weight, at summer i tryed to make cutting (totally failed, lost 8kg of muscles and fat, and i don't know what were more, next time i will use some staff, like ECA or even DNP), and in 1-2 monthes i will be 95, it's my usual weight.

Forget about oral only, waste of money and time

The idea was to ADD d-bol, not only.

There's nothing you can really do for your liver

How about liv52 and so on ?

Time on (including pct) = time off

ok, but i think it is based on something ? I mean, I dream to become a competing bodybuilder in some years.

 

[SamSport]

right now i am 24 / 90 kg / don't know, about 20%, i don't see abs pack. But it is not my normally weight, at summer i tryed to make cutting (totally failed, lost 8kg of muscles and fat, and i don't know what were more, next time i will use some staff, like ECA or even DNP), and in 1-2 monthes i will be 95, it's my usual weight.

The idea was to ADD d-bol, not only.
How about liv52 and so on ?

ok, but i think it is based on something ? I mean, I dream to become a competing bodybuilder in some years.

Liv 52 might help a very little bit... very little. The best you can do is to not run it for morre than 4 weeks. Don't go with DNP, there's a lot of people that had bad experience with it. I wouldn't touch that for sure. What weight class do you w ant to compete... You know advance bodybuilding require massive doses of HGH and insulin... you gotta have great amount of money to buy these ghs/gear/food etc. Also I would DEFINATLY lose fat before you run your cycle. The leaner you are the greater muscle gains . You could also get more fat if you start at 20% BF... If you do it anyway, I would recommend you to do great amount of cardio and maybe look into carb cycling or some kind of diet to lower BF

 

[Foffail]

I would DEFINATLY lose fat before you run your cycle

So....you recommend me one more cutting ? Again, without bulking ? The funny thing is that i never in my live sow my abs pack ))

What weight class do you w ant to compete

I didn't thought about it, because it will not be soon -it will not this year, and it will not be next year...
I hope i can do do 2-3 bulking cycle per year and 1-2 cutting cycles per year, then show myselfe to the mirror and think about it all.

massive doses of HGH and insulin... you gotta have great amount of money

Yes, HGH is expensive like hell, but i don't need for my current level Also, insulin is cheap in Russia: HUMULIN REGULAR cost less then 20$ for 10ml of 100ME/ml. Anyway, i will not need it for years, i think )

 

[SamSport]

So....you recommend me one more cutting ? Again, without bulking ? The funny thing is that i never in my live sow my abs pack ))

I didn't thought about it, because it will not be soon -it will not this year, and it will not be next year...
I hope i can do do 2-3 bulking cycle per year and 1-2 cutting cycles per year, then show myselfe to the mirror and think about it all.

Yes, HGH is expensive like hell, but i don't need for my current level Also, insulin is cheap in Russia: HUMULIN REGULAR cost less then 20$ for 10ml of 100ME/ml. Anyway, i will not need it for years, i think )

Yeah I definatly recommend cutting before you begin youir cycle.. or maybe cut during your cycle.. you would preserve more muscle mass that way, if you do everything right. Anyways, stay away from insulin if you dont want a pregnant gut. You don't need it if you don't want to go pro. But personally, I would do a cutting cycle if I was in your situation