deca question.

[Nooch]

hello im doing a sec cycle.. ive been training for about 3 yrs now, did my last cycle of 500mg test cyp for about 7-8 weeks (short i know) anywho im looking at dooing another... 500mg cyp along with 3-400mg deca now the only thing im worried about it gyno.... and bloat haha but i can do with bloat. but im jsut wonderin what should i be taking incase symptoms accour? i hear nolva only makes it worse, is this true? anywho more info i can get would be awsome guys. thanks. and i plan on taking the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) shots around 4 weeks after my last deca.



cycle 2
test cyp 500mg/week 12 weeks
deca 3-400mg/week 10 weeks

 

[FerrariF50]

hcg should be used during cycle rather than after.

nolva is effective.

 

[--Trojan--]

no dont use nolva when deca is in the cycle, vit b6 and if you need it, cabergoline. remember its progesterone related gyno with deca NOT estrogenic

 

[FerrariF50]

there is no such thing as deca type gyno. gyno is gyno. progestins can aggravate estrogenic gyno. therefore, you need to control the estrogen by using anti-e's.

 

[Strega]

No offense Ferrari, but while you are partially correct about gyno being gyno(sorta) you are way off base when saying to use nolva. Nolva should be avoided if possible while using deca. Use cabaser or bromo.

 

[dfresh333]

for normal estrogenic gyno nolva would be fine, but a compound like deca is going to cause progesterone related gyno so caber is the bst choice. Have fun getting you test levels back to normal after a short break between cycles then jumping into a new one with deca. not advisable.

 

[juced_porkchop]

ok well cycle seems good
deca u should be fine with only 250mg-300mg i think 400 is a lil much.
also test is ok but u could prob get away with 350-400mg a wk. wut u have there is ok its just how id do it and id lower the deca to atleast 300mg.
i used vitamin b6 when i had deca gyno prob at 500mg a day for a few weeks then slowly lowerd to 200mg a day. for this cycle i have been using 200mg a day 100mg mid day and 100mg later on and havent had a prob. so i think u should run vitB6 200mg a day thru whole cycle and even till post cycle therapy (pct) is done it may help.

so somthing like this:
test 400mg wk1-12
deca 250mg wk1-10
vitB6 100mg X2 a day=200mg a day wk1-16
PCT wk14-18 nolva 40/30/20/20

 

[mick-g]

i think the bromociprine is what you want for the gyno from a 19nor. I would get some armidex tho and run it .50mg ed or eod. will help with any water and estrogen.

 

[dorian123]

hey porkchop who is the chick in your avatar?

 

[juced_porkchop]

hey porkchop who is the chick in your avatar?

its my GF

 

[--Trojan--]

he's worried about the gyno from deca, progestins may aggravate estrogenic gyno, but hes already ran a course of test before and had no problems, so logic would have you think hes talking about gyno from progesterone, and if nolva upregulates they receptors, why would you want to use it?

there is no such thing as deca type gyno. gyno is gyno. progestins can aggravate estrogenic gyno. therefore, you need to control the estrogen by using anti-e's.

 

[juced_porkchop]

use vitamin B6 200-300 mg split day and eve thruout cycle