First Cycle idea, tell me what you think!

[JesseStone]

Hey all, new to this forum so don't bash me too hard if i posted in the wrong spot. Been wanting to run a cycle for a while now and after checking out what every says is best for a first cycle am 90% sure i'm going to run an 8 week Test Prop cycle since it seems to be everyone's favorite for a first cycle and tren is a no go for first cycles. (Also i race motocross and do not want to run winny as brittle tendons could be very bad if I crash)


My stats: 6'2 190lbs, about 12% bf. been training about two years started out even skinnier than now about (165) Consume about 4000 clean calories a day (I am human and have a weakness for Reeses peanut butter cups, maybe 2 a week) and am a definite hard gainer but have slowly and surely seen results.


Here is what i had in mind:

Week 1-8

125mg Test Prop EOD
12.5mg Aromasin EOD
250iu of HCG Every 3 days

PCT weeks 1-4
25 mg ED of Clomid
3g ED of DAA

I was also thinking of running var first 6 weeks? Idk if its good to run first 6 or last 6 weeks have seen both on forums. Any input would be great If i should add anything etc.

Cheers!!

 

[Megatron28]

How old are you?

Many run Test E or C for 10-12 weeks on their first cycle.

 

[JesseStone]

21, will be 22 in march. I know this is a little young but think it isnt terribly young? as I would think around 25-26 is the age people start their cycles

How old are you?

Many run Test E or C for 10-12 weeks on their first cycle.

 

[Metalhead]

Prop isn't ideal for a first cycle because of the frequent injections. Test e or c is great and you only have to inject 2xa week. I personally run aro ed and I split my doses in 2.

 

[El paja]

In my opinion you are too young bro you can add a lot of gain natural i don't know how you don't gain weitgh eating 4000 cal at day

 

[JesseStone]

Prop isn't ideal for a first cycle because of the frequent injections. Test e or c is great and you only have to inject 2xa week. I personally run aro ed and I split my doses in 2.

Thanks MetalHead, for test E and C what would be your recommended doses a week? Also what did you mean Aro ed? as in Aromadex? Other than frequent pins, anything else that makes Prop a negative for first cycle?

 

[JesseStone]

Prop isn't ideal for a first cycle because of the frequent injections. Test e or c is great and you only have to inject 2xa week. I personally run aro ed and I split my doses in 2.

Thanks MetalHead, for test E and C what would be your recommended doses a week? Also what did you mean Aro ed? as in Aromadex? Other than frequent pins, anything else that makes Prop a negative for first cycle?

 

[Metalhead]

Thanks MetalHead, for test E and C what would be your recommended doses a week? Also what did you mean Aro ed? as in Aromadex? Other than frequent pins, anything else that makes Prop a negative for first cycle?

Aromasin. I split my dose 2x daily. The pinning schedule is the main reason it wouldn't be good, and potentially the little extra pip that goes along with it, plus your virgin muscles also read the stickies before you start anything.

I'm only giving you info that I believe to be accurate for you to use when you're READY. I recommend that you do not start until you understand the sides and long term effects that may come from doing one cycle. I also agree with paja that you're too young and you need to wait, but you're an adult and you'll make your own decision. Know the risks before doing anything. Best of luck

 

[Megatron28]

You really would be better of waiting to run a cycle. Your brain is not fully developed yet. Nor your body. You can still get plenty of natural growth at your age pretty easily. There are serious long-term risks. Are you aware of what they are? Can you tell us what the risks are?

 

[Optimal]

Prop isn't ideal for a first cycle because of the frequent injections. Test e or c is great and you only have to inject 2xa week. I personally run aro ed and I split my doses in 2.

What's wrong with frequent injections? Gets the practice in early and imo minimizes PIP since you are splitting up the volume.
Btw, that avi..... damn!

@OP: Too young.
Also...

am a definite hard gainer

This kind of goes to back it up...
I started out at 130lbs, was tied with like 2 other guys for skinniest person in my graduating class of ~120students. Exactly what everyone would call a "hardgainer," but now I know better.
Somatotypes have been essentially debunked as having any validity in science.
"Hardgainer" = under-eater. It can often take years of denial to finally realize that, sometimes even decades for some people.

 

[JesseStone]

You really would be better of waiting to run a cycle. Your brain is not fully developed yet. Nor your body. You can still get plenty of natural growth at your age pretty easily. There are serious long-term risks. Are you aware of what they are? Can you tell us what the risks are?

I can't tell you what ALL the risk are, but i know you run chances shutting yourself down completely, damaging organs and f*** with blood pressure. In all your opinions whats the ideal time? As far as age, size, weight etc? And as far as experience have any of you had long-term sides? Thanks for the info all much appreciated!!

 

[casperthefriendly]

"Hardgainer" = under-eater. It can often take years of denial to finally realize that, sometimes even decades for some people.

Unfortunately, some people will never learn this...