First Cycle... Tren A

[Imgunnaeaturchildren]

I just started my first ever cycle today and am looking for some advice/opinions. I have been researching alot these past couple weeks but i'm sure i have some misconceptions. I'll put this out there before hand...sorry if i say something stupid i'm trying to learn as much as possible.

I'm 6'0 165pds 21yrs old and have been lifting for two years. 10% body fat.

My goal is to gain a good solid/lean 10-15 pounds... keeping my bodyfat around 10%. With big strength gains of course.

I recently started a cycle today with my best friend. He got a real good deal on some tren a so we decided for 8 weeks 200mg a week... (100mg twice a week) took the first one in the right delt. i know its better to stack with others but not sure what kinda sides i want to deal with. (i know all have sides but tren seemed not as severe i guess). Is a tren a only cycle a bad idea?

If i were to end up stacking with something else what would be a good idea to meet my goals? I believe he can get some test, clen, and whinny. from what i've read test seems to have some crazy sides. I'm aware all of this is bad for my body but i dont want to completely kill myself. Also instead of taking novaldex he told me there were two things i can buy at gnc that pretty much the same as novaldex when combined... sorry i dont have the names yet but i will get them...

Please give me opinions/advice. if theres anything i forgot let me know i will reply. Once again i'm trying to learn so be easy on me haha. Thanx

 

[bleachcola]

Everyone is going to suggest you use Test Enanthate at 500mg/wk for your first cycle. Seems like you are set on using Tren anyway, so I'll recommend that you use the test and throw in the tren with proper useage. Back off the test a little if you are concerned about sides. Probably suffice with 250mg/wk. Take the tren at 50mg/day. Eat right and train hard and you will be happy with the results.

 

[Warmachine]

should have learned BEFORE YOU STARTED...

anyway, get some test quick or your sex drive/function may die.
shoot your tren every other day, so at your dose go for 50mg eod.
no supplement replaces nolva. get some nolvadex

read up on what your going to need for post cycle therapy and GET IT NOW!

good luck buddy and dont forget to eat

 

[sean john]

should have learned BEFORE YOU STARTED...

anyway, get some test quick or your sex drive/function may die.
shoot your tren every other day, so at your dose go for 50mg eod.
no supplement replaces nolva. get some nolvadex

read up on what your going to need for post cycle therapy and GET IT NOW!

good luck buddy and dont forget to eat

agreed

 

[bleachcola]

Real men shoot acetate every day.

 

[Imgunnaeaturchildren]

i believe he can get test prop... but i'll check. Is that good?

The tren is really that bad on the sex drive? i mean i read up on it, some people said it did little, some said alot, some said they couldnt keep it down....

Also... i'm guessing theres really no sub. for nolvadex? i'll bust my ass to get it if not i wont do anymore till i get it...

This is my friends 2nd cycle and he said his friends know what there doing (our connects)... i know everyone likes to think they do and its bad to go bye peoples words that why i'm asking you guys ...

 

[bleachcola]

i believe he can get test prop... but i'll check. Is that good?

The tren is really that bad on the sex drive? i mean i read up on it, some people said it did little, some said alot, some said they couldnt keep it down....

Also... i'm guessing theres really no sub. for nolvadex? i'll bust my ass to get it if not i wont do anymore till i get it...

This is my friends 2nd cycle and he said his friends know what there doing (our connects)... i know everyone likes to think they do and its bad to go bye peoples words that why i'm asking you guys ...

You won't like prop, get your hands on some enanthate. Clomid works as a sub for nolvadex. Just make sure you get either. And your friends don't know shit, they're retarded.

 

[atali]

why would he not like prop? works great..in my opinion even better then enth or sust/omna. Plus if you are worried about sides,you dont have it in your system for any longer than 3 days compared to 3 weeks with enth/sust

 

[bleachcola]

why would he not like prop? works great..in my opinion even better then enth or sust/omna. Plus if you are worried about sides,you dont have it in your system for any longer than 3 days compared to 3 weeks with enth/sust

Most people don't enjoy the soreness that accompanies prop. Being new to the game, I'd assume he'd especially hate it.

 

[atali]

also being new to the game he shouldnt even touch tren

 

[Imgunnaeaturchildren]

why is tren so bad for a first time cycle?

 

[bleachcola]

also being new to the game he shouldnt even touch tren

But seeing how he's already bought it and started, I doubt anyone will talk him out of using it. So the reasonable approach would be to tell him how to properly use it instead of giving him advice that he will never use.

 

[bleachcola]

why is tren so bad for a first time cycle?

It's not. It's just that most beginners are incapable of using it correctly or dealing with the sides.

 

[Imgunnaeaturchildren]

would it then be bad to stop the tren all together and try and get my hands on some test? If i get the test then maybe do a couple weeks tren also?

 

[Imgunnaeaturchildren]

once again i really appreciate the replys/advice.

 

[Fender]

why is tren so bad for a first time cycle?

Your information is somewhat backwards. Tren is one of the more severe compounds as far as sides go. Test, while it too has sides, is one of the easiest to control. Plus Test is what makes a man. Like Bleach said Prop can be painful but everyone reacts differently. I recommend you get some test ASAP whether it be Prop or Enan.
Keep an eye on your blood pressure and if it goes up too much, drop the Tren.

 

[Fender]

would it then be bad to stop the tren all together and try and get my hands on some test?

That's not a bad idea.

If i get the test then maybe do a couple weeks tren also?

Tren should be run for a minimum of six weeks. You could try a Test/Tren cycle but again watch your blood pressure....drop the Tren if you have to.


That being said, I do recommend a Test only first cycle.

 

[Imgunnaeaturchildren]

ok so i'm gunna stop the tren and try and get my hands on some test. hopefully enan but could be prop. If prop.. i'm just gunna be sore as shit? gains better or worse? how much and how long of a cycle?

 

[bleachcola]

ok so i'm gunna stop the tren and try and get my hands on some test. hopefully enan but could be prop. If prop.. i'm just gunna be sore as shit? gains better or worse? how much and how long of a cycle?

Prop at 150mg eod will suffice. The only reason I don't recommend using tren on a first cycle is bc you will see ridiculous results with minimal doseages of test anyway. Save your tren for later on preferably. But if you are dead set on using it, take my advice above.

 

[blackjack]

ok so i'm gunna stop the tren and try and get my hands on some test. hopefully enan but could be prop. If prop.. i'm just gunna be sore as shit? gains better or worse? how much and how long of a cycle?

Yes the prop will hurt, theres no way around it. gains will be the same as cyp or enan. test is test. the only difference is the ester attached to the test molecule, which determines its half-life and frequency of administration. prop cycles can be run any length of time, usually they are short due to the pain and frequent dosing. and when comparing sides of tren to test. test is by far alot more mild. tren is pretty heavy duty stuff.