HELP!!! with NPP/Sust250 cycle

[TJ_BMF]

Hey guys i will be starting my third cycle soon. This time i will be trying something new and i need some oppinons, All HELP IS GREATLY APPRETIATED.

GOALS- Hoping to really gain some lean mass

This is what im thinking of doing so far.

- 500mg/week Sust250 with 400mg of NPP (nandrolone propionate) or DECA - week 1-10 (pin twice a week) Monday and thursday
- Weeks 1-5 i will be taking 50mg of DBOL to help kick start the cycle.

Arimidex for AI ( start 1 week before i start cycle) .50 EOD then adjust
Caber for gyno related to NPP or DECA ( not sure about dose as its new to me)
I have Letro and Nolva on hand if needed.


Clomid for PCT
day 1 -300mg
day2 to day11 -100mg
day12 to day21 - 50mg

Nolva for PCT
week 1 - 50mg ED
week 2 and 3 - 25Mg ED



Stats:
6'3
200lbs
30 years old

Question
I understand that if i run NPP that i will have to shoot EOD, with that being said i would like to shoot both the NPP and the TEST at the same time. However if im shooting NPP EOD i will not be able to shoot TEST EOD??? would it be better to just run DECA instead of NPP and just shoot twice a week?

Let me know what you guys think, i promise all feedback is appretiated.

thanks guys

P.S. Ive picked up all my gear so far except NPP OR DECA

 

[Megatron28]

Few observations:

Sust and NPP need to be injected more frequently than twice a week.

Don't start taking an AI prior to your cycle.

If I remember right, Caber dosage is .50mg twice a week.

What cycles have you run in the past?

Why no hCG during your cycle?

Why such a huge dose of Clomid? Do you usually do PCT for 3 weeks?

When and what blood work are you doing?

 

[TJ_BMF]

My first cycle was T400 500mg/week
adex for Ai
PCT was HCG

second cycle was 250mg TEST E / 250mg Sust250 Week
Dbol for first 5 weeks to kick start
HCG

I honestly just hate HCG, injecting into the stomach is so painful
im just tryna avoid doing that by using CLOMID/ NOLVA

Any suggestions for the CLOMID DOSE?

 

[Megatron28]

My first cycle was T400 500mg/week
adex for Ai
PCT was HCG

second cycle was 250mg TEST E / 250mg Sust250 Week
Dbol for first 5 weeks to kick start
HCG

I honestly just hate HCG, injecting into the stomach is so painful
im just tryna avoid doing that by using CLOMID/ NOLVA

Any suggestions for the CLOMID DOSE?

You can't use hCG for PCT. It is suppressive to your HPTA.

You don't have to inject hCG in you stomach. Who told you that? You can inject subq anywhere or do an IM injection in any if the normal spots. Or just draw it into your syringe that you are using to inject test and Nandrolone. Do all three in one injection.

 

[TJ_BMF]

You can't use hCG for PCT. It is suppressive to your HPTA.

You don't have to inject hCG in you stomach. Who told you that? You can inject subq anywhere or do an IM injection in any if the normal spots. Or just draw it into your syringe that you are using to inject test and Nandrolone. Do all three in one injection.

really? i didnt know that. thanks for the info. Just been around a bunch of guys and thats what they do.
Im thinking to run DECA instead of NPP so i dont have to inject so frequent.

have you ever run a TEST+Deca cycle?
what were u running?
what PCT would u recommend?

 

[Megatron28]

really? i didnt know that.

Which part or all of it?

 

[TJ_BMF]

Which part or all of it?

I have to admit my PCT has been very weak in my previous cycles
Hence why I'm coming here for advice from the pros
I use to take 1000iu of HCG / week for 3 weeks then suddenly come off by using NOLVA.

I think I will go the NPP route because I do what the gains to come quick.

 

[jozifp103]

either way you have to inject frequently because sust has short esters in it that require eod pinning at least

 

[TJ_BMF]

either way you have to inject frequently because sust has short esters in it that require eod pinning at least

Ok how does this sound ..

NPP 75mg + sust250 125mg EOD (Monday,weds,friday,sun)
Week 1-10
Dbol week 1-4 to kick start
Arimidex .50 EOD
Caber .50 twice a week


PCT (3 weeks after last pin)

Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg


Let me know If I'm forgetting anything

 

[tbonexl]

Try this:

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html