I downloaded Mick Hart's 2 Laymans books and....

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buylongterm

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Because I really believe you guys when you say EDUCATE, EDUCATE, EDUCATE!!!!! For anyone who is new to this (as I am) I believe paying 29.00 and listening to you guys is priceless!!!!! (if you can't afford to educate yourselves, your in BIG trouble)

I started a cycle of trenbolene (150mg every 3 days) along with Primoblan S tabs and per you advice, it was a bad cycle, so I stopped!

Mick Hart suggests a beginner cycle like this one.

wk 1 - 3dbol 1 nov
wk 2 - 5dbol 1 nov
wk 3 - 8dbol 1 nov
wk 4 - 10dbol 1 nov
wk 5 - 10dbol 1nov
wk 6 - 8dbol 1 nov
wk 7 - 5dbol 1 nov
wk 8 - 3dbol 1 nov

what do you guys think of this? Is this a safe beginner cycle? I am nervous about taking that many orals...If I decide to do the injection, can I just take a couple of injections week of dbol? and from what I've learned on this board, I should also take test pro along with it? How then do I add this into my cycle and what is the dosage of dbol per week?

I'm 5 8", 35, 150 pds.....
 
What mg dbol? What mg nov did he mean?

Dbol only cycle is not a good one. Stack it with deca or test and maybe lower the dbol dosage a bit.
 
Golden_Muscle said:
What mg dbol? What mg nov did he mean?

Dbol only cycle is not a good one. Stack it with deca or test and maybe lower the dbol dosage a bit.
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Here are two great beginner stacks.

sust 250mg/wk for 8 weeks, and dbol 15-25mg/day for 4 weeks.

or, deca 200 or 300mg/wk, and dbol the same as above.
 
5mg tablets of DBOL and 20MG tablets of Nov. He says it's also good to take Nov because it helps with water retention.... He's suppose to be the expert, but everyone tells me to add test pro with the cycle????
 
Shit books really, a lot more to be learned here. I got them for free. I'll email them to anyone that knows my real name as they're pretty big and I have to send them from my real email.

Or I can give them to someone to put up on FTP...
 
if you run Sustanon (sust) only, you must do an amp eod for at leats the first week, preferably two.
 
whats a good cycle to do then for my first time. I want to be able to keep the injections down to a minimum.....I have in hand some trenbolone and some oral primobolan S (yes there real)
 
It' not that Mick is for oral only cycles.......It is per request that he gives a D-Bol cycle.....It is not optimum.....It can be done.....
 
buylongterm said:
whats a good cycle to do then for my first time. I want to be able to keep the injections down to a minimum.....I have in hand some trenbolone and some oral primobolan S (yes there real)
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Not to be a dick or anything, but did we not get into this yesterday.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2611

With your stats and training experience (none), a good first cycle would be to start a good training regime and get on a bulking type of diet. I was in a similar situation to you when I was in my early thirties, 5'10" & 145 lbs. I added a good 60 lbs over a few years with nothing more than getting dedicated to lifting and eating properly.

You have got to remember that steroids are not some "magic pill" that will suddenly transform your body. Until you master actually working out and dieting for your goals, nothing is going to help you.
 
That is a horrible beginners cycle! He just wrote a book and is still promoting the pyramid technique??

Youre other cycle isnt to good either...Tren and primo tabs?? You didnt get that info from any of the well informed Vets or Mods here!

Please read this thread...its basic, but will give you an idea. Also there is more usefull info on our article board than in any book.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65

Also note: The article posted here are a culmintation of all the best articles from EF, AF, AR, MZ, Etc.... If you feel like reading, go there!
 
some good beginner cycles

test 250 mg a week
test 250mg + eq 300 mg a week
test 250mg + deca 300 mg a week

you could up the dosages a bit it really doesnt matter you should probably spend more time training naturally and eating more..
 
Trenimator76 said:
dbol only cycle sucks bro Youll lose most after the cycle. I would add some deca 400mg of eq400mg a week.
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Don't just spew shit that everybody else posts. I am sick of people putting these statements up all over the place. You either have never ran d-ball only or haven't got a clue what to do post cycle. Only give advice if you know wat your talking about.
 
Yossarian said:
am i the only one who thinks Mick Hart is a horrible writer and that his books lack in quality content?
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I have never read his books, but if all his stuff looks like that junk cycle I would have to say he is. Didn't tapering get dismissed with modern science?
 
Mick Heart trains alot of people and is more of a Old school BB'er, As far as the D-bol only cycle goes it can be done, and with proper care the proper care you will still make gains. I believe he states 5-10 lbs of gains would be keepable.(which is realistic) IMO his intermediate cycles is more suited for a beginner. As far as his book goes it was written I believe back in 1999. There is some good little bits of info to be found it the book. I believe he states it is better to inject but he knows some people will try to do oral only so that is the reason for it being posted in the book that way. Like most he knows that most will not want to settle for a sigle cycle and will continue on the AS path. I am not definding the book just stateing that their is some good info. I have also read the anabolic Truth from the elite board and was disapointed that it had very little info about anabolics in it( 2 pages) the rest was training and sups. I also bought the Chemical wizzardry book and was left dissapointed in the information from there as well. The anabolics 2000,2001,2002,2003 books are mostly just edited info from the original that is reprinted. I have yet to find a good book on the subject. I know the company that prints my shirts for my board will be coming out with the option of letting me create a paperback book so if anyone is interested in helping with it I would welcome the help as I am writting a book for that purpose. Also asked my publisher and they use a computerized printing process to create each book as it is ordered so I could make updates at any time to the book. Else words they print as order so I am not stuck with a stack of out of date books and can keep up with changes. If any of you want to participate and screen the copy for edits and correct information it would be of help as if I do the book I will do it right and not half ass like most of the stuff out there now.
 
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