IF Diet

[bennelson57]

I am sure there are some who oppose this, and maybe a few of you for it. But I believe in the science of intermittent fasting.
Intermittent Fasting.... in my case the Warrior diet... worked great for me when I was lifting naturally. I mean extremely well, I also had a couple trainees who lost the fat and maintained the majority of mass whilst doing the IF diet.

Now I'm wondering, have any of you guys done this on cycle? I don't see why it wouldn't work, perhaps even better than before... the test in theory should make it even easier to hold onto muscle as well as make it easier to get down all the calories in a short window.

 

[mrricco2012]

Well I will give my two cents. For the pas 6 months, maybe longer I was practicing IF. Not a strict IF, If I was hungry I'd eat but most the time I just fasted in the morning until Post Workout. Which I'd usually wake up around 10:15 hit the gym at 11 so I did train fasted. Honestly I saw no difference over that long course. I did have a ton of energy hitting the gym, lifts always going up n such, and hated the idea of doing hard cardio with food in my stomach.

But now that im going on my cycle I am switching over to a regular 7-8 meals a day diet. With gym time an hour, 1 1/2 hrs after a simple breakfast. I've been getting in that mode the past week, and honestly im doing better in the gym. I woke up this week, and every morning I had about 200-250 grams of sweet potato as my preworkout meal. Waited an hour before the gym. I didn't feel sick when I did cardio, or abs. I even went up in weight on 3 of my lifts. I will probably keep at it with having one very small meal preworkout. Maybe 200-250 grams of SP, maybe rice, or possibly an apple. With that maybe 4 oz of chicken to get protein in.

 

[Yurek]

My friend and me going to cycle both at the same moment, in about 2 weeks
We both will be cutting he will do a IF diet, while i will do 8meals a day low carb high protein diet mainly because i will be on T3 and my friend will not use T3.
We both will do 1900 calories a day,
Ill tell you how it goes, no idea what will happen now

 

[bennelson57]

awesome man... let me know, like I said, IF really helped me cut fat before, but when im paying for gear I want to bulk considering that cutting comes pretty easy for me. but I figure that using IF and eating a lot of calories could work really well for a "lean bulk" (debatable as that term may be)... Maybe I will try an IF cycle next. definitely keep me posted on his progression.

 

[Docd187]

awesome man... let me know, like I said, IF really helped me cut fat before, but when im paying for gear I want to bulk considering that cutting comes pretty easy for me. but I figure that using IF and eating a lot of calories could work really well for a "lean bulk" (debatable as that term may be)... Maybe I will try an IF cycle next. definitely keep me posted on his progression.

There's nothing inherently superior about an IF diet over any other type of diet. The only benefit you may get from it is one of convenience in that you have a set eating window everyday. You don't have to prepare multiple meals for the day, pack lunches and snacks, etc. nutrient timing doesn't play a major role until you're in the very low body fat range so at the end of the day choose whatever's most convenient for you and the one you can stick to CONSISTENTLY.

 

[Protobuilder69]

IF is not optimal for muscle gains, layne noton study showed that mps is elevated for 4-5 hours after eating a protein rich meal then return to baseline, then you can eat another meal and increase protein synthesis again., He also stated that you cannot make up for the lack of protein during the day by eating 1-2 big meals at night.


Heres the video:
youtube.com/watch?v=s5AX2ND3UYo

 

[Docd187]

IF is not optimal for muscle gains, layne noton study showed that mps is elevated for 4-5 hours after eating a protein rich meal then return to baseline, then you can eat another meal and increase protein synthesis again., He also stated that you cannot make up for the lack of protein during the day by eating 1-2 big meals at night.


Heres the video:
youtube.com/watch?v=s5AX2ND3UYo

Lay e norton is also sponsored and funded by a supplement company so I tend to take his advice with a grain of salt and view it critically. Not saying anything bad about him but his motives are certainly up to be questioned. There are many ppl who do IF with great physiques just like there are plenty of ppl who eat 6-8 meals a day with shitty physiques. Mps is elevated after a meal and with 6-8 meals you get a steady elevation but with IF you get a huge spike and the body's natural braking system slows or speeds digestion and absorption of nutrients via the ileal tract/brake.

 

[Protobuilder69]

What does him being sponsored have to do with his protein research? Doesnt make sense, yea he's sponsored by scivation and they sell xtend,, whey protein whatever, but he never mentioned anything about supplement or xtend in general.

Heres my philosophy, if it works stick to it, everyones body is different and we have different schedule that allows us to eat at certain time of day, i dont give a fuck what science or brosceince says, i try the shit and if i see results i'll stick with it.
I myself prefer to eat 6-7 medium sized meals a day (including shakes), and it works for my body, i would probably pass put on IF, just find what works for you.
What i do is gather information like a sponge from, study's, broscience, 6 meal 10 meal 1 meal, meal timing, frequency, dont matter, then apply it to my own needs, and this is what everyone should do, dont just follow someone else foot steps.

 

[Docd187]

What does him being sponsored have to do with his protein research? Doesnt make sense, yea he's sponsored by scivation and they sell xtend,, whey protein whatever, but he never mentioned anything about supplement or xtend in general.

Heres my philosophy, if it works stick to it, everyones body is different and we have different schedule that allows us to eat at certain time of day, i dont give a fuck what science or brosceince says, i try the shit and if i see results i'll stick with it.
I myself prefer to eat 6-7 medium sized meals a day (including shakes), and it works for my body, i would probably pass put on IF, just find what works for you.
What i do is gather information like a sponge from, study's, broscience, 6 meal 10 meal 1 meal, meal timing, frequency, dont matter, then apply it to my own needs, and this is what everyone should do, dont just follow someone else foot steps.

I agree stick to what's convenient for you and follow the science. Him being sponsored has a great deal to do with his motivations and his recommendations based on his views. The company that sponsors him would love if everyone bought more whey and other supplements. They love the idea of 6-8 meals a day and push them off as mandatory for muscle building bc whos going to eat 8 meals of chicken a day? They know as meal frequency goes up so does reliance on whey and other products. Like I said, I don't discount his views, I just view them more critically than a researcher who has no vested interest in a supplement company.

You prefer 6-7 meals a day so you stick with what's convenient. You can't tell me though that that is the reason for your success. The reason it works for your body is bc you're applying the principles within the 6-7 meals that are the foundation of any proper diet i.e. adequate calories macros and micros for your goals. It's not meal timing so much as total energy intake for the day/week that's giving you the results. If you're happy doing that than by all means stick with it. But just bc yore getting results with that many meals does not mean its superior to IF or any other properly composed diet, meal timing and frequency nonwithstandig.