Is my gear crap?

[junkDNA]

Hi guys,

I would like to get your advice on whether you think the current results from my cycle, right now, points to bunk gear. I will list my details below.

My stats:

Age: 35 years
Weight: 226 (a little more flabby than I would like)
Height: 6'1"

I have done one 6 week cycle in the past consisting of 400 mg per week of test-e and 200 mg of deca. I did this when I was 24 and took nothing else as far as anti estrogen or anti progesterone (for the deca). I bloated up fast and retained a lot of water and acne, including some fair sized cystic acne on my back that required accutane. I also experienced some minor gyno at the end and back hair growth.

My current cycle:

Gear and dosage:

Test-e 250 (1/2 cc 2 times a week Mon/Thr)
Total test: 250mg a week

Tren-e 200 (1/2 cc 2 times a week Mon/Thur)
Tren-a 100 (3/5 cc (~60 mg) every other day)
~Total tren: ~400mg a week

letrozole .25 mg a day (minor Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose to counter anticipated test sides)

cabergoline .25 mg 2 times a weeks mon/thur (minor anti-progesterone dose to counter the tren sides)

HMB 3g a day

I am getting HCG and plan on taking 100 ui a day to keep gonadal function intacted while on the cycle, then start my pct.

I am getting clomid and plan on taking it for my pct

diet:
3500 calories, ~250 grams of protein a day taken in approximately 47g portions. 6 meals a day.


Results:
I planned on running this cycle for 8 weeks, as tren is not recommended for longer cycles. I am 3 weeks into this cycle and have been working out very heavily. I have gained ~5-6 lb. I am showing very little sides. No bloat, no acne, no tren cough, etc. The only sides I have experience is a minor oily skin on my face. I understand that my ancillaries would prevent many of the sides but I should be experiencing some of the androgenic sides based on my previous experience. In addition, the lack of tren cough has me bothered. I know that it is more often caused by a spike of tren in the blood associated to a higher dose of a lower weight ester and therefore tren-e should not cause that side, but with the addition of tren-a, I would have thought it would have been there a bit. In addition, my body fat has not reduced at all. I have been sticking strictly to a low glycemic index slow burn carb and protein diet (as mentioned above).

I was thinking I could be gaining addition muscle because of an increased workout, HMB, and increased protein rich diet and not any help from AAS.

In addition, i put the gear in the fridge to begin with and crystals precipitated out of the tren, but went back into solution after warming in water. That makes me think it could be real.

Sorry about the weight of information, but I read other posts from people who were requested to provide detailed information.

Thanks in advance for your opinions. I look forward to reading them.

 

[Carhartt]

If this is ur cycle number 6 or 7 do i think 250mg test aw is to little. And the 1/2 cc thing sounds gay to me. But u pin ur tren ace eod so i understand u can split it up.. And u have to eat more bro. U have to do 5000 calories + ed.

 

[spinister]

It's possibly bunk but you are on fairly low dosages so I wouldn't expect dramatic changes.

Tren functions best in a low calorie environment, even at your weight if you are serious about cutting it you want to be running a little higher mg of tren and cut your calories more aggressively.

 

[tod36]

Best way to tell if bunk? Blood test.

That will tell you right away if it was underdosed or the real deal.

 

[mdella89]

More protein mate, 250 sounds a little low to me. and i would carb cycle aswell. get 3j to help you.

drop the test e, drop the tren e.

Run test prop and tren ace. test at 300, tren at 400, you will rip up and chuck on size guarenteed.

test e and tren e dont even start really kickin till like week 5 man so its virtually a waste of a cycle if you plan on 8, but if you run short esters you should get a bit out of it, i would probably run the short esters to 10 weeks personally

 

[mdella89]

If this is ur cycle number 6 or 7 do i think 250mg test aw is to little. And the 1/2 cc thing sounds gay to me. But u pin ur tren ace eod so i understand u can split it up.. And u have to eat more bro. U have to do 5000 calories + ed.

dont totally agree with 5000 cals IMHO. tren increases feed efficiency, my mate threw on size with 1600 cals of tren and daily cardio lol. not that im suggesting doing that coz your a little bigger than him but it does show you the power of tren.

since your already on this cycle, i missed that part, i would be running this cycle longer, your not even anywhere close to the peak of the cycle yet. i would run the long esters for 14 and drop the tren a week or two before the test

 

[gymrat827]

best way to tell if bunk? Blood test.

That will tell you right away if it was underdosed or the real deal.

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[junkDNA]

First off, thank you guys for all the great responses. You provided some nice suggestions. I have some more questions. Many statements I make in my questions are based on a lot of research but they are just academic. If you think I am wrong, please let me know. Obviously, I have far less practical experience than most of the respondents.

Best way to tell if bunk? Blood test.

That will tell you right away if it was underdosed or the real deal.

This seems like the best and most definitive way to determine the quality, but would i just be asking for a hormone panel? I heard that simply paying a lab outright to do the blood work and bypassing the doctor altogether is effective. But what would i be looking for, just my test levels? Would it test for tren? Obviously, if these results show this, would i be legally in trouble for AAS use? Guess I need more explanation.

...drop the test e, drop the tren e.

Run test prop and tren ace. test at 300, tren at 400, you will rip up and chuck on size guarenteed.

test e and tren e dont even start really kickin till like week 5 man so its virtually a waste of a cycle if you plan on 8, but if you run short esters you should get a bit out of it, i would probably run the short esters to 10 weeks personally

type of tren:

I understood, from the majority of research I've done, that the enathate ester makes the AAS have a halflife of about 2 weeks and not 5. Am I totally off on that?
I chose tren-e because it allowed for an even blood level of tren with an eod dosage of tren-a ~60 mg or ~210mg (total !400mg). my goal was to try and keep the tren from spiking. Is Tren -A really that much better than tren-e overall?
Also I was only able to buy one 10 ml test-e 250 from my supplier before he ran out, so i am limited there. I wish I could get more but I have yet to find a new guy.


dosage of tren:

Because Tren-A has a halflife of about 1-2 days, they recommend pinning ed or at the most eod. when you say tren-a 400mg, I am assuming you mean either ~60mg ed or
~114mg eod?


Duration concerns:

I heard that 8 - 12 weeks (with 12 weeks being the max) and 300 - 500mg being the dose with diminishing returns above 600mg with far more possibility of sides. In addition, the article I read explained how tren seriously messses up your hpta (hypothalymus pituitary testicular hormonal axis) and that longer on will increase the risk of poor recovery afterwards. HCG through the cycle and clomid post cycle therapy (pct) should help I think, but that article had me concerned. Are these facts inaccurate?

 

[junkDNA]

another questions

Also, I wondered if anyone could address the issue of side effects (explained in my initial question) you guys think I should be still seeing some androgen related sides such as very oily skin and acne, like my last cycle or any other sides? Has anyone taken accutane after a cycle to get rid of acne, as I did, and done another cycle afterwards? If so, did you skin react the same way on your next cycle post accutane treatment?