Well, Tornel won't be any better! In fact if anything their gear is probably more dirty then QV. Also, Tornel will be underdosed & underfilled. If you don't want to deal with painful inj., you may want to go with Euro gear. It will be higher priced, but it is alot cleaner and is human grade stuff. The Mex gear is vet grade, so it is not as clean and it has a high BA content, it's just a price you pay when you use the Mex. stuff.