Laying out a cycle.

[TJR87]

I am looking to start a cycle of Sustaplex 325 real soon. Before I start, I understand it is important to have everything figured out and ready to go. I expect the unexpected as all of us should (Plenty of Nolva, Aromasin, and Letro.).

I am planning on doing a cycle of Sustaplex 325 at 500 mg/wk, this will be broken up into 3 shots during the week to take advantage of all esters and keep blood levels as stable as possible (ED is too much to handle ha.).

I will be using Aromasin at 12.5mg EOD for the entire cycle to combat any aromatization, water retention or bloat.

Diet will be clean, home made chicken and rice, eggs, fish, fruits, vegies, and of course standard 100% whey along with fish oil, a multi vitamin and BCAAs.

Now that I filled everyone in here, I am looking to stay lean and drop fat but possibly throw on some lean mass and strength at the same time.

Two questions I can't get a 100% straight answer to have to do with Clen, and when to cycle off the Aromasin.

I have read about people throwing Clen in on cutting cycles and also read that people should wait until after their cycle. Keep in mind, I am looking to lose fat and stay lean. Should I throw Clen in?

Also, I am confused about the Aromasin. I plan on running it through out my cycle, but do I cut it off when I start post cycle therapy (pct)? or continue to run it with post cycle therapy (pct)? I have read both yes, cut it at PCT to allow the body to start maintaining normal hormone levels, and no, run it with Nolva, Clomid, ect. to aid with your post cycle therapy (pct). Which is best? From picking out info, I am leaning toward cutting it off at the PCT mark. But again, I am not sure.


Thanks everyone.

 

[surfdog]

I am running aromasin through out my cycle when I need it and def during pct

 

[Deepsouth]

why are you running Aromasin during your cycle? do you have a history having problems with Gyno? Estrogen is a needed evil in the growth game and if you don't have issues with Gyno, there is no need to surpress estrogen to levels that can hamper your growth. Always the correct mindset to have everything on hand prior(good planning!), but neo need to take it if there are no issues. I personally have never had issues with hold a ton of water on Sustanon (sust). You may also want to tell me how you calculated 500mg/EW with 3 shots using Sustanon (sust) @325mg/ml- like to see that- may want to consider just 650mg/wk

 

[Teutonic]

Nice lil cycle with good support compounds..use em if you need em..
I m a high strung german type and clen make s more irritable than usual, causes more insomnia and give s me the shakes..I hear it works though...

 

[TJR87]

why are you running Aromasin during your cycle? do you have a history having problems with Gyno? Estrogen is a needed evil in the growth game and if you don't have issues with Gyno, there is no need to surpress estrogen to levels that can hamper your growth. Always the correct mindset to have everything on hand prior(good planning!), but neo need to take it if there are no issues. I personally have never had issues with hold a ton of water on Sustanon (sust). You may also want to tell me how you calculated 500mg/EW with 3 shots using Sustanon (sust) @325mg/ml- like to see that- may want to consider just 650mg/wk

yes, I have had issues with gyno in the past. A while back I was running 500mg of test E, and I actually developed 2 decent sized lumps, and my nipples were so sensitive, my shirt rubbing during the day caused pain.

how much would half a pill eod effect growth? that bad? I would rather be safe and prevent it before it develops.

I hate the bloat and water retention sides. The test E I got before, which was probably not solid stuff, made me look fatter than hell and all my definition was temporarily lost. Running Aromasin should keep that down.
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Here was my thinking for the dosage, correct me if I am wrong. Also, I'm shooting for around 500mg, I know it wont be exact, but close.

sust 325 is 325 mg/ml, so 1 shot at 1 ml, I would get 325 mg.

Half of 325 mg, is 162.5mg, which would be half a ml. So, if my thinking is correct, 1ml(325 mg) + .5ml(162.5mg) = 487.5mg.

divide 487.5 by 3 (3 shots a week) and you get 162.5mg which = .5ml. Half a ml 3 times a week will give me 487.5mg/wk. Just a little bit past the .5ml mark will get me pretty close to 500 mg.

I just don't want to go overboard and I do not want to run out of Sustanon (sust). 650mg would be a 10 wk cycle with 2 vials, so I should be fine if I run ~500mg s with 2 vials for 12 weeks or so.

 

[TJR87]

Nice lil cycle with good support compounds..use em if you need em..
I m a high strung german type and clen make s more irritable than usual, causes more insomnia and give s me the shakes..I hear it works though...

Funny how you say Clen keeps you up. I have ran Clen in the past and for some reason it put me to sleep at random times during the day, even if I did not do my daily cardio.

I was only doing 80mcgs too, 2 pills split up. 1 morning 1 around 2pm. I got some pretty bad shakes too. Clen definitely works, great stuff as long as its not abused.

BTW, your pic is my goal for abs, I am almost there which is why I want to avoid water retention and bloat. I think im about 12% according to a buddy's measurements.

 

[crackfox]

Ive taken clen for up 6 weeks with you use of keto, ive never had ever any problems getting sleep with it . but to each their own i guess.

 

[TJR87]

Hell, I think I'll run some Clen and see what happens. A few friends from my gym did it and recommend the mix.