Levels okay but don't feel great?

jomamma007

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Okay got my results

This is on 84mgs per week (42mgs 2x week)
250iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 3 times per week

9/17/13
Total test 816(348-1197)
Free test 19.2(9.3-26.5)
SHBG 33.3(16.5-55.9)
Estradiol sensitive 19(3-70)
DHEA-S 155 (31-701)

Vit D 74(30-100)
Prolactin 12.3(4-15.2)
DHT 56(30-85)
Cortisol 13.1 (2.3-19.4)
Labs taken at. 12:30pm

Well i started with 100mg on july 24th and after a month i thought my estro was high so i lowered my dose. I think the main problem was my estrogen was actually in a great spot maybe even the sweet spot as libido was great but i was going through a breakup of a 2 year relationship so i thought i was sad just because of high estro. Second i only gave it a month and lowered dose to 80 mgs per week and i definitelt think i need to give my body more time to adjust to its new levels of test.

Now I think my estradiol is too low because I don't feel too hot at this dosage. I definitely felt better at 100mg per week so I think I'm going to go back to that and get full labs in another month and give it more time to see results. Was only on it for a month before I dropped my dosage. I got the standard estradiol test the day before this bloods and it read
45H(7-42.6) now I did take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) that morning but still weird how unreliable it seems to be. So I took arimidex. 25 after getting the standard estradiol test back. The following two days I woke up with wood but still felt like crap. After 3-4 days my joint have been achy so I definitely won't touch any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) again as I might not even need it at 100mgs per week. I feel like when I take my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) though I get a big spike in estrogen as I only get anxiety on days I take it but going from 84 back to 100mgs per week should put me in the sweet spot for estrogen.


I don't mind injecting everyday so I'm going to do
Day 1 28mgs test cyp
day 2 200iu hcg
Repeat
so thats 98mg test per week and 700iu hcg. Also going to add some micronized pregnenonlone and Dhea to bring up DHEA and estro levels a bit. I'm confused as too why I still feel crummy and I'm hoping that bring estro sens up to around 25 will make me feel better. What do you think? My main symptom has been fatigue but I'm getting tested for sleep apnea as it seems my levels are pretty good. Also erections and libido are very inconsistent as well as anxiety. I read that on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and having good test levels, we have more estrogen as well and this can cause it too worsen so maybe this is my true problem because I wasn't this tired when I had a 484 test level back in July.

As always all input welcome and thanks
 
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I think your numbers look pretty good! When were these labs taken relative to your last injection? Trying to see if this is your peak or trough or middle.

E2 could be a little higher. Upping your test dose should help.

I personally don't think there is any advantage to pinning more frequently than every 3.5 days. If you really are going to pin every day you better get very good at pinning lots of different locations. Otherwise you will have a big scar tissue problem. Better hit, delts, quads, glutes and ventoglutes. Maybe mix in pecs and traps too. I pin every 3.5 days and use my quads and delts.

Better research injecting Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) that frequently. More often isn't necessarily better with HCG. The guys from IMT will tell you it is counterproductive to inject it that frequently.


Keep an eye on your prolactin. Make sure it doesn't get too high.
 
Also, keep in mind that the regular estrogen assay is not accurate at lower E2 levels. Thus the need for the Sensitive assay. The regular is typically 10-20 points higher than Sensitive. So remember to convert the regular.
 
I think your numbers look pretty good! When were these labs taken relative to your last injection? Trying to see if this is your peak or trough or middle.
two days after injection, one day after hcg

E2 could be a little higher. Upping your test dose should help.
what e2 do you feel best at?

I personally don't think there is any advantage to pinning more frequently than every 3.5 days. If you really are going to pin every day you better get very good at pinning lots of different locations. Otherwise you will have a big scar tissue problem. Better hit, delts, quads, glutes and ventoglutes. Maybe mix in pecs and traps too. I pin every 3.5 days and use my quads and delts.
even with slim pins?

Better research injecting Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) that frequently. More often isn't necessarily better with HCG. The guys from IMT will tell you it is counterproductive to inject it that frequently.
Most guys inject Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 3 times a week, eod is virtually the same thing right? Pretty sure Crisler has his guys on 100ius ed, at least the ones on gels. Mimics the bodies natural production of lh.


Keep an eye on your prolactin. Make sure it doesn't get too high.
Will do, going to start supplementing with PREG and DHEA which could raise it too high as it will prob bring my estro up a bit. Can low levels of DHEA cause any symptoms if my other hormone levels are fine. I don't want to take it if it wont do anything other then raise estro and prolactin.

Also Wednesday which would be 8 days after taking arimidex I had the best erection ever, yet Thursday and today I can't even get hard.
 
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Will do, going to start supplementing with PREG and DHEA which could raise it too high as it will prob bring my estro up a bit. Can low levels of DHEA cause any symptoms if my other hormone levels are fine. I don't want to take it if it wont do anything other then raise estro and prolactin.



On the Regular Assay my E2 is in the 40's. Below than and I start getting joint pain.

I would still find a lot of spots to rotate. Or do sub-Q injections.

Research Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) injections on this forum. That's all I am saying. What you are suggesting may be counterproductive.

I supplement DHEA and Pregnenolone. Honestly, I can't tell the difference. I have never run labs to check levels though.
 
Get Cialis and take it daily. It has other benefits besides harder erections. You can find great info on this website. Try a search on cialis + austinite. He posted greater info on cialis.
 
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