Looking for Professional Opinion on Blood Panel Results

[Cornfead]

The great thing about this site is that it has opened my eyes to the chemistry of your body. I have realized there is much more to learn than what I "thought" I knew. So for my health I got my blood work done and would like to get some professional advise from a few who are quite educated in the chemistry side of this.

My Goals:

1. To learn more about my body and create a more balanced system.
2. Increase my Test levels to put on more muscle, and regain my mental edge in my career. I feel like garbage at the moment!!!!
3. Have a long term plan for peptides and/or HGH later in the year to decrease body % by mid 2014.
4. Fix this low test, sex drive, issue we have again..

Self:

1. Completely Clean for 2 months ...No supplements, vitamins, kits, etc.
2. Got clean to totally purge body and take blood work.
3. H - 6'3", w- 256, %BF - ~18%, Fitness - 4-6 days week depending on work

Bloodwork results:

CBC w/ diff

WBC 7.4
RBC 6.18
Hemoglobin 17.7
Hematocrit 56.8
MCV 92
MCHC 31.1
RDW 10.8
Platelets 261
MPV 9.2 l
Neutrophils Relative 60
Lymphocytes Relative 30
Monocytes Relative 7
Eosinophils Relative 2
Basophils Relative 1
Neutrophils Absolute 4.4
Lymphocytes Absolute 2.2
Monocytes Absolute 0.5
Eosinophils Absolute 0.2
Basophils Absolute 0.1


COMP Met Panel


Calcium 9.2
Glucose, Bld 110
BUN, Bld 15 5 - 25 mg/dL
Creatinine, Ser 1.09
Sodium 140
Potassium 4.2
Chloride 106
CO2 23
Total Protein 6.5
AST 23
Alkaline Phosphatase 57
Total Bilirubin 0.6
ALT (SGPT) P5P 39
Albumin 4.0

Components

TOTAL NON-HDL CHOLESTEROL (LDL+VLDL) 89
Cholesterol 160
Triglycerides 108
HDL 65
LDL 56

Free T4 - .94

TSH - 1.474


Test - 286


So now I'm looking at getting my body back to cycling after the long break. Any professional thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Austinite]

You need to post the ranges. every center uses different ranges and units of measure. That said... you need to donate blood or do a double RBC immediately. Chances are you will be rejected because your blood is too thick, in which case you will need to attempt to obtain a prescription for a therapeutic draw, or drain yourself. Looks like this needed to happen months ago.

 

[elboz]

You need to post the ranges. every center uses different ranges and units of measure. That said... you need to donate blood or do a double RBC immediately. Chances are you will be rejected because your blood is too thick, in which case you will need to attempt to obtain a prescription for a therapeutic draw, or drain yourself. Looks like this needed to happen months ago.

What stood out to you in the labs?

 

[DreDay187]

Polycythemia. Your rbc count is high, hemoglobin right near the limit, and hematocrit is way above where i would think it should be.


Edit** your red blood cells count is high causing you to have thick blood. Hematocrit is a measure of the percentage of red blood cells per volume of blood

 

[Austinite]

What stood out to you in the labs?

Polycythemia. Your rbc count is high, hemoglobin right near the limit, and hematocrit is way above where i would think it should be.

^^ that.

 

[DreDay187]

Also we're you fasted for this test or not?

 

[Cornfead]

You need to post the ranges. every center uses different ranges and units of measure. That said... you need to donate blood or do a double RBC immediately. Chances are you will be rejected because your blood is too thick, in which case you will need to attempt to obtain a prescription for a therapeutic draw, or drain yourself. Looks like this needed to happen months ago.

I actually did a RBD back in January. And you are right, the first time I went in November I think, they told me the same. My blood was to thick.

I have also noticed that my workouts were exhausting before I started taking baby aspirin in the mornings, and this definitely helped my aerobic activities. I noticed on my labs, my sugar was high, but my triglycerides and HDL was average which confuses me. I thought id my sugar was high, this would start the chain from liver, insulin, etc.?

I have read several times, where thick blood is an early sign of heart attacks and strokes so I've tried to keep an eye on it. For these reasons are why I asking for professional opinions rather than just pinning again.


with Ranges


WBC 7.4 4.0 - 11.0 1000/ul
RBC 6.18 4.50 - 5.60 mill/uL
Hemoglobin 17.7 14.0 - 18.0 gm/dl
Hematocrit 56.8 42.0 - 52.0 %
MCV 92 80 - 100 fl
MCHC 31.1 31.0 - 37.0 gm/dl
RDW 10.8 12.1 - 14.9 %
Platelets 261 150 - 375 1000/ul
MPV 9.2 6.5 - 12.0 fl
Neutrophils Relative 60 44 - 81 %
Lymphocytes Relative 30 21 - 47 %
Monocytes Relative 7 2 - 11 %
Eosinophils Relative 2 0 - 7 %
Basophils Relative 1 0 - 2 %
Neutrophils Absolute 4.4 1.5 - 10.0 1000/ul
Lymphocytes Absolute 2.2 1.3 - 2.9 1000/ul
Monocytes Absolute 0.5 0.1 - 1.0 1000/ul
Eosinophils Absolute 0.2 0.0 - 0.7 1000/ul
Basophils Absolute 0.1 0.0 - 0.2 1000/ul

Calcium 9.2 8.8 - 10.6 mg/dL
Glucose, Bld 110 70 - 100 mg/dL
BUN, Bld 15 5 - 25 mg/dL
Creatinine, Ser 1.09 0.57 - 1.25 mg/dL
Sodium 140 136 - 145 mEq/L
Potassium 4.2 3.5 - 5.1 mEq/L
Chloride 106 100 - 109 mEq/L
CO2 23 22 - 33 mmol/L
Total Protein 6.5 6.0 - 8.3 gm/dl
AST 23 10 - 58 unit/L
Alkaline Phosphatase 57 40 - 150 unit/L
Total Bilirubin 0.6 0.2 - 1.2 mg/dL
ALT (SGPT) P5P 39 5 - 50 unit/L
Albumin 4.0 3.5 - 5.0 gm/dl


TOTAL NON-HDL CHOLESTEROL (LDL+VLDL) 89 0 - 129 mg/dL
The Non-HDL value is recommended as the secondary target of cholesterol lowering therapy, after targeting the LDL. Non-HDL is also considered to be a good indicator of CHD risk.
Cholesterol 160 100 - 200 mg/dL
Total Cholesterol Interpretation: <200 Desirable 200-239 Borderline high >240 High
Triglycerides 108 0 - 149 mg/dL
HDL 65 35 - 85 mg/dL
HDL Cholesterol Interpretation: <40 Low >60 Desirable
LDL 56 0 - 100 mg/dL
LDL Cholesterol Interpretation: <100 Optimal 100-129 Near optimal/above optimal 130-159 Borderline high 160-189 High >190 Very High



Free T4 0.94 0.70 - 1.48 ng/dl


TSH, High Sensitivity 1.474 0.350 - 4.940 uIU/ml


Testosterone 286 240 - 871 ng/dl

 

[Cornfead]

Yes, I did fast before the test. I thought about the sugar and i forgot until just now the night before was a friends party, and we junked him with cake and ice cream. It had been so long since I had it, I think I had two pieces.

But I still didnt think it would read that high.

 

[Austinite]

Everything else looks fine. Creatinine and Bun could be better, you need to eat more protein. I might have missed it but I'm guessing you're not on cycle nor recently come off a cycle,correct? Test is in the gutter, wondering why...

Cholesterol is a bit out of whack but nothing dangerous that can't be fixed. How old are you and What's your BF %?

 

[DreDay187]

I actually did a RBD back in January. And you are right, the first time I went in November I think, they told me the same. My blood was to thick.

I have also noticed that my workouts were exhausting before I started taking baby aspirin in the mornings, and this definitely helped my aerobic activities. I noticed on my labs, my sugar was high, but my triglycerides and HDL was average which confuses me. I thought id my sugar was high, this would start the chain from liver, insulin, etc.?

I have read several times, where thick blood is an early sign of heart attacks and strokes so I've tried to keep an eye on it. For these reasons are why I asking for professional opinions rather than just pinning again.


with Ranges


WBC 7.4 4.0 - 11.0 1000/ul
RBC 6.18 4.50 - 5.60 mill/uL
Hemoglobin 17.7 14.0 - 18.0 gm/dl
Hematocrit 56.8 42.0 - 52.0 %
MCV 92 80 - 100 fl
MCHC 31.1 31.0 - 37.0 gm/dl
RDW 10.8 12.1 - 14.9 %
Platelets 261 150 - 375 1000/ul
MPV 9.2 6.5 - 12.0 fl
Neutrophils Relative 60 44 - 81 %
Lymphocytes Relative 30 21 - 47 %
Monocytes Relative 7 2 - 11 %
Eosinophils Relative 2 0 - 7 %
Basophils Relative 1 0 - 2 %
Neutrophils Absolute 4.4 1.5 - 10.0 1000/ul
Lymphocytes Absolute 2.2 1.3 - 2.9 1000/ul
Monocytes Absolute 0.5 0.1 - 1.0 1000/ul
Eosinophils Absolute 0.2 0.0 - 0.7 1000/ul
Basophils Absolute 0.1 0.0 - 0.2 1000/ul

Calcium 9.2 8.8 - 10.6 mg/dL
Glucose, Bld 110 70 - 100 mg/dL
BUN, Bld 15 5 - 25 mg/dL
Creatinine, Ser 1.09 0.57 - 1.25 mg/dL
Sodium 140 136 - 145 mEq/L
Potassium 4.2 3.5 - 5.1 mEq/L
Chloride 106 100 - 109 mEq/L
CO2 23 22 - 33 mmol/L
Total Protein 6.5 6.0 - 8.3 gm/dl
AST 23 10 - 58 unit/L
Alkaline Phosphatase 57 40 - 150 unit/L
Total Bilirubin 0.6 0.2 - 1.2 mg/dL
ALT (SGPT) P5P 39 5 - 50 unit/L
Albumin 4.0 3.5 - 5.0 gm/dl


TOTAL NON-HDL CHOLESTEROL (LDL+VLDL) 89 0 - 129 mg/dL
The Non-HDL value is recommended as the secondary target of cholesterol lowering therapy, after targeting the LDL. Non-HDL is also considered to be a good indicator of CHD risk.
Cholesterol 160 100 - 200 mg/dL
Total Cholesterol Interpretation: <200 Desirable 200-239 Borderline high >240 High
Triglycerides 108 0 - 149 mg/dL
HDL 65 35 - 85 mg/dL
HDL Cholesterol Interpretation: <40 Low >60 Desirable
LDL 56 0 - 100 mg/dL
LDL Cholesterol Interpretation: <100 Optimal 100-129 Near optimal/above optimal 130-159 Borderline high 160-189 High >190 Very High



Free T4 0.94 0.70 - 1.48 ng/dl


TSH, High Sensitivity 1.474 0.350 - 4.940 uIU/ml


Testosterone 286 240 - 871 ng/dl

Your red blood cells are too high and this is causing the thickening of the blood. Donating blood to the ER, a therapeutic draw, or drawing yourself should be your priorities before they become any more if a problem than they are now. Glucose was somewhat high but again, did you fast for 12hrs or not since this would greatly affect the readings. I'm not the expert here but I don't think your glucose is necessarily high enough to cause that much trouble, ESP if not fasted, and cholesterol levels are separate from glucose levels. Aspirin, like alcohol, thins out the blood up it doesn't change your rbc count and it fixes the symtpoms but doesn't treat the cause. Get to donating blood or one of the other options mentioned above.

 

[Cornfead]

Everything else looks fine. Creatinine and Bun could be better, you need to eat more protein. I might have missed it but I'm guessing you're not on cycle nor recently come off a cycle,correct? Test is in the gutter, wondering why...

Cholesterol is a bit out of whack but nothing dangerous that can't be fixed. How old are you and What's your BF %?

Your right, I have been clean for 2 months now. No cycle, no post, not on specific diet, (took a Break). Dont get me wrong, even though I'm not on a strict diet, I still eating good. I was on 2x protein diet during cycle, but as of 60 days ago I've been eating regular meals with the family and enjoying the time before I started again. Also in my mind, I was trying to get as close to "normal" labs as possible before I cycled for the year again. I havent had any real numbers in over 3 years.

Age is 40
BF % is now around ~18-20%.

 

[3J]

was this test taken after a 12 hour fast?? your blood glucose is a big issue if so

 

[Austinite]

Your right, I have been clean for 2 months now. No cycle, no post, not on specific diet, (took a Break). Dont get me wrong, even though I'm not on a strict diet, I still eating good. I was on 2x protein diet during cycle, but as of 60 days ago I've been eating regular meals with the family and enjoying the time before I started again. Also in my mind, I was trying to get as close to "normal" labs as possible before I cycled for the year again. I havent had any real numbers in over 3 years.

Age is 40
BF % is now around ~18-20%.

Gotchya. It's time to visit a longevity clinic If you can lose a few lbs it would really help with your cholesterol levels. For now I would increase fish oil intake, and if you're not taking it with Vitamin E, be sure to do so to protect the fatty acids.

 

[3J]

Yes, I did fast before the test. I thought about the sugar and i forgot until just now the night before was a friends party, and we junked him with cake and ice cream. It had been so long since I had it, I think I had two pieces.

But I still didnt think it would read that high.

i see the question was answered..

was it still a whole 12 hours before you tested??

 

[Cornfead]

i see the question was answered..

was it still a whole 12 hours before you tested??

Probably closer to 9 or 10 hours.

 

[Cornfead]

Your red blood cells are too high and this is causing the thickening of the blood. Donating blood to the ER, a therapeutic draw, or drawing yourself should be your priorities before they become any more if a problem than they are now. Glucose was somewhat high but again, did you fast for 12hrs or not since this would greatly affect the readings. I'm not the expert here but I don't think your glucose is necessarily high enough to cause that much trouble, ESP if not fasted, and cholesterol levels are separate from glucose levels. Aspirin, like alcohol, thins out the blood up it doesn't change your rbc count and it fixes the symtpoms but doesn't treat the cause. Get to donating blood or one of the other options mentioned above.

Thanks. Didnt thick of the aspirin that way.

Any suggestions on practices in doing a self draw and how much? Is it typically supervised & how often? Monthly?

 

[3J]

Probably closer to 9 or 10 hours.

i would do a full 12 hour fast and check it again... if your pre-diabetic that will affect the type of diet you do..

there is also the possibility of metabolic syndrome

also how did you get your bodyfat tested?

 

[DreDay187]

Probably closer to 9 or 10 hours.

Glucose levels are spiked after a meal (assuming you ate right before starting the fast) then drop quickly as your body release insulin and by the end of 8-10hrs most of the drop in serum glucose has been taken care of so if you fasted for 9-10hrs a 12hr fast really wouldn't lower your levels too much more. I believe pre-diabetic becomes a concern around the 105mg/dl level so you're right in that neighborhood. I would try taking another test with a true 12hr fast and losing the few pounds that Austinite mentioned can reduce the risk of diabetes dramatically.

Edit* Not trying to scare you just want to see levels after an accurate fast.

 

[Cornfead]

i would do a full 12 hour fast and check it again... if your pre-diabetic that will affect the type of diet you do..

there is also the possibility of metabolic syndrome

also how did you get your bodyfat tested?

Hydrostatically in April I was 17.2%.

 

[DreDay187]

Thanks. Didnt thick of the aspirin that way.

Any suggestions on practices in doing a self draw and how much? Is it typically supervised & how often? Monthly?

Asprin interfere with the platelets in the blood which are basically blood clotting cells. So if you get a cut, platelets will clot at the site of the wound so it can heal without losing too much blood. If you ever noticed after taking asprin or drinking alcohol, cuts tend to bleed a lot more bc the clotting mechanism of the platelets are inhibited.

I've never had the need to do a self-draw, I donate to the Red Cross, so it hasn't been an issue for me. You could do it every few months as needed and usually around a pint or so I would imagine. PM Austinite as he made a post about this exact issue earlier today and think he has a video for self-drawing techniques.