Low estrogen after cycle - HELP

Uksam1990

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Let me start with an outline of my personal stats;

Age: 26
Weight: 81kg
Height: 6ft 2inch
BF: 10.3%

Finished my cycle (last jab) on 2nd September 2016, which compromised of around 12 weeks tren ace/test p/mast with dbols for week 1-4 and winnies week 8-10, proviron the whole time and I didnt use HCG throughout the whole cycle just shot 1,000iu EOD around week 9/10. Last jab was 2nd September and started PCT on 4 September as below:

Day 1-3: 40mg Nolva
Day 4-18: 40mg Nolva
Day 1-15: HCG 1,000iu EOD for first 4 shots then 2,000iu for 3 more shots

Cut PCT short on the Nolva due to complete loss of libido and no wood, left myself one week and a half and nothing happened apart from bloating, itchy nipples and sore nipples. As I cut my PCT short and had no libido still I decided to get some Clomid and Adex which was taken as below:

Day 1-4: 100mg Clomid
Day 5-12: 50mg Clomid
Day 13-23: 25mg Clomid

ADEX: Day 1 = 1mg (front load) / Day 3 = 0.5mg / Day 5 = 0.5mg / Day 8 = 0.25mg / Day 11 = 0.125mg

Around day 5 of PCT my libido was back with a vengeance and my morning wood was back and stronger than ever, this lasted 2/3 days and then went completely again so thats why I tapered down the ADEX and have since stopped ADEX since day 11.

Since then my joints are extremely painful, my poo is hard and sometimes im constipated, im tired but cant sleep very well and wake up multiple times in the night, my libido has dropped massively and my morning wood went until about 3 days ago but very very soft and I can sometimes get an erection but cannot maintain it during sex, desensitized feeling in penis and my moods were extremely bad so I stopped the Clomid at day 23 rather than 28.

I know I did not use an AI during cycle but I was using proviron so thought this would be ok.

On 3 October I had my estrogen and testosterone tested and it was 15ng/ml (estro) and without digging out my testosterone results it was around 680 ng/ml.

What I would like to know is I have completely shot my estrogen way too low and how long will it take to come back up and sort itself out. My last ADEX tab was on 10 October and my last 25mg Clomid was on 21 October. Its really making me feel low but luckily my GF is very supportive and said she doesnt mind and will wait as long as it takes to come back. Sometimes we can have sex, othertimes I start but then it doesnt feel the same as it used to (sensitivity wise) and I start losing my erection.

Many thanks

Sam
 
You don't want to use an AI during PCT as your TT ias in the low to normal range. Thus an AI is. Ot necessary. By taking an AI you crashed your E2 which caused the symptoms you experienced. In a few weeks your E2 should return to normal.

Proviron is not an AI. It was a poor decision to not us an AI during your cycle if your E2 was elevated.

Who frontloads adex? WTF?

PCT should inckude both clomid and nolva. Not just one of them.

You should have used hCG the whole cycle rather than just at the end.

Please do much more research if you decide to ever use AAS again. Next time ask for help before your start, not afterwards.
 
Man what a cluster fvck. I can't believe all the things wrong with this cycle. AND where the hell did you get the idea that Proviron was an AI. That ells me you don't understand what an AI is.

Well that's behind you and so take Meg's and our advice start reading and learning all you can before pulling that trigger again.
 
Yea i really did fuck up! :( paying the price for it now though, as with my erection problems. I can manage to get an erection but its not full and it always goes down, when I try on my own I get bored and the feeling isnt the same an i loose interest.

Hopefully as you said a few weeks will sort it all out. I am currently taking DAA, Tribulus, Siberian Ginseng, Ginko Bibola, Vit B6, Multi Vit pack
 
Yea i really did fuck up! :( paying the price for it now though, as with my erection problems. I can manage to get an erection but its not full and it always goes down, when I try on my own I get bored and the feeling isnt the same an i loose interest.

Hopefully as you said a few weeks will sort it all out. I am currently taking DAA, Tribulus, Siberian Ginseng, Ginko Bibola, Vit B6, Multi Vit pack

admitting that you messed up is half the battle and will now get you more help from the boys around here, please keep us posted op!
 
Yea i really did fuck up! :( paying the price for it now though, as with my erection problems. I can manage to get an erection but its not full and it always goes down, when I try on my own I get bored and the feeling isnt the same an i loose interest.

Hopefully as you said a few weeks will sort it all out. I am currently taking DAA, Tribulus, Siberian Ginseng, Ginko Bibola, Vit B6, Multi Vit pack

Get some cialis. Take 5mg daily. Most of us run it year round. There are lots of positive benefits besides rock hard erections.
 
Just an update for anyone who is interested/and/or crashed their Estrogen too. Last night (day 18 after last tablet of Adex) I had a rock hard on at 3am and couldnt sleep and drifted off then woke up at 6 with another rock on. First morning/night wood in ages now, my joints are gradually getting better. So looks like 2/3 week mark after stopping Adex I am starting to recover.
 
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