Lower Carbs/ Increase Protein - More mass?

[JMHFL7]

This is my basic diet:

http://www.************/forums/diet-nutrition/9189-losing-my-gut.html
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(Calorie intake with my basic diet is about 3700 - 5 - 6 meals a day)

Though I read an article for showing abs (cut fat in body) and changed my diet somewhat, where it substitutes 2 out of the 3 meals of chicken with fish and the other turkey breast (diet also includes more veggies). One major difference I see in the diet is that the carbs intake (rice, beans) are cut out and then replaced in smaller amounts of other carbs such as wheat bread, oatmeal & pasta.
(Calorie intake with this new diet is about 3000 - 7-8 meals a day)

P.S. Im starting to run on treadmill 3 - 4 times a week, 10 -15 min at ideal speed for fat loss for my age-120BMP. (I run 2 min, walk 1, run 1.5, walk 1.5 and so on) - Maybe this will help with fat loss and not hinder my muscle growth?

My question is, can I lower my carb intake and up my protein intake and still gain the same amount of mass as if I eat tons of carbs? (which is recomended for ectomorphs) - problem is, I'm getting a gut.... Balloned stomach and accumulation of fat around torso. Not sexy bro!

 

[ecke70]

just a question about your cardio. what makes you think 120 bpm is yout ideal fat loss intesity???

 

[Suareezay]

i dont have a clue what this thread is asking.

lowering carbs and upping protein isnt going to have any huge effect assuming calories are kept the same, and you are getting adequate protein in the first place. protein will just be a more expensive energy source.

i would also consider lowering your meal frequency. 7-8 meals is ridiculous and completely unnecessary. 4-5 meals will make your life so much easier.

 

[ecke70]

suareezay>> why dont more people listen to you.. i think ive rea you saying that more than 4 meal i just a waste of time at least 10 times now... but people still keep thinking they need to eat ett least 3 times an hour to stoke their metabolic fire and bla bla bla...

im a cyclist and eat at most 3 times a day + energy drink during rides and i train 25h+ per week....

i guess what im trying to say is that its nice te here some bodybuilder say you dont need to eat everything you see.

 

[Suareezay]

suareezay>> why dont more people listen to you.. i think ive rea you saying that more than 4 meal i just a waste of time at least 10 times now... but people still keep thinking they need to eat ett least 3 times an hour to stoke their metabolic fire and bla bla bla...

im a cyclist and eat at most 3 times a day + energy drink during rides and i train 25h+ per week....

i guess what im trying to say is that its nice te here some bodybuilder say you dont need to eat everything you see.

when something is pounded down your throat by supplement companies and magazines, and further perpetuated by internet "gurus", self proclaimed experts, and average gym bros it pretty much becomes indisputable fact, regardless of scientific or anecdotal evidence to the contrary. years ago, i would never have believed the first people claiming the world was round.

althought theres nothing inherently wrong with a high meal frequency, its just unnecessary. some people find they remain fuller longer eating that way.

 

[JMHFL7]

just a question about your cardio. what makes you think 120 bpm is yout ideal fat loss intesity???

Because I did the equasion for the BMP for my age. Im 34.... Its from 120-130 BPM

 

[JMHFL7]

i dont have a clue what this thread is asking.

lowering carbs and upping protein isnt going to have any huge effect assuming calories are kept the same, and you are getting adequate protein in the first place. protein will just be a more expensive energy source.

i would also consider lowering your meal frequency. 7-8 meals is ridiculous and completely unnecessary. 4-5 meals will make your life so much easier.

I quit the 7 - 8 meal plan... Though its easier due to the smaller amount of food, its a pain to be eating every 2 hours! So Im just going to keep the 5 meal plan at every 3 hours

 

[theincredible1]

I quit the 7 - 8 meal plan... Though its easier due to the smaller amount of food, its a pain to be eating every 2 hours! So Im just going to keep the 5 meal plan at every 3 hours

no way in hell is 7 meals a day easy.. I eat 4 meals a day and get the same protein/carbs i would in 7

 

[Suareezay]

good call guys.

 

[Skarhead1]

if you lower your carbs I would up your GOOD fats, but like Sure said, if the cals or the same I dont think it will have a huge impact on muscle building. However if you're carb s ensitive i would imagine switching to more fats might have a ositive effect on body comp

 

[Suareezay]

skarhead brings up a point point.

once protein is established, the level of carbs and fats dont seem to make a huge difference in most (assuming the proper level of overall calories), but those with better insulin sensitivity will do better on higher carbs, those with poor insulin sensitivity will do better with higher fat.

but yea, in the end, set protein to adequate levels, then make up the rest of your cals with carbs and fat.

 

[JMHFL7]

skarhead brings up a point point.

once protein is established, the level of carbs and fats dont seem to make a huge difference in most (assuming the proper level of overall calories), but those with better insulin sensitivity will do better on higher carbs, those with poor insulin sensitivity will do better with higher fat.

but yea, in the end, set protein to adequate levels, then make up the rest of your cals with carbs and fat.

So like Shark and you say .... I could probably try a diet with higher fat? higher fat means, more olive oil in salads or means eating steak higher in fat?
I still have a gut and I work out, so I should not have one. I sometimes have to press really hard sometimes to make it flat and still even if you press it, you can see there is fat there... what to do? what to do?

Also, I think Im going to stop cardio, I've lost 4 lbs .... I dont want to go down, I want to go up in weight, not lose weight... though good weight (muscles)

 

[Suareezay]

if youve got fat youre not happy with, i wouldnt recommend stopping cardio. cardio will help you lose that fat. then once youve lost the fat, you can work on gaining muscle.

 

[ecke70]

Because I did the equasion for the BMP for my age. Im 34.... Its from 120-130 BPM

the truth is that there is no such thing as a fat burning zone. 120-130 is just level where you burn the highest percentage of fat. but you burn very few calories and its the calories that count in the end.

 

[JMHFL7]

Thanks guys