My first Sustanon 250 Cycle

[pg13drums]

Hello there,
I've been lurking around for a few years from time to time doing research for my first cycle.

I'm 6' 1, 26 years old as of last month and 235 and 6 years of lifting. I have been bulking for the last year and have put on some extra BF but also a lot of muscle. I have decided to go with
Sustanon 250 - 500 mg a week - pinning twice a week. For 10 weeks ( I have 2, 10ml vials).

I have some Armidex on hand.
And Nolvadex for post cycle therapy (pct).

Do I need to get some HCG? Am I too close to 30 that I may not recover correctly?
How should I dose the Nolvadex and Armidex?

Thanks for your help. I am just trying to figure everything else before I start.

 

[size_matters]

Is this your first cycle ever? or just the first with sust?

10 wks is pretty short for any cycle man, I suggest buying another vial and run it for 12-14wks.
sust needs to be pinned more frequently because of the fast esters prop. & phenylprop. I'd say minimum 3x/week but I'd personally do it EOD. Not exactly sure on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) dosage but its always good to have, pretty sure its 250iu 2x/wk starting at mid cycle going up till post cycle therapy (pct) then blast it with more (but not sure on dosage)
instead of nolva you should get some clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) and run it 100/100/50/50.
Arimidex dose is 0.25mg ED (that's a quarter of a mg)

 

[pg13drums]

Yes this is my first cycle ever. I can def get another vial of Sustanon (sust) and will run it for 12 weeks.

So if I pin 3 X a week how many MG should I pin everytime?

What If I can't get any clomid? Will Nolva suffice?

If I'm running Armidex could gyno still pop up?

I appreciate your help man. Thank you.

 

[size_matters]

Yes this is my first cycle ever. I can def get another vial of Sustanon (sust) and will run it for 12 weeks.

So if I pin 3 X a week how many MG should I pin everytime?

What If I can't get any clomid? Will Nolva suffice?

If I'm running Armidex could gyno still pop up?

I appreciate your help man. Thank you.

if you can run it for 14 weeks its even better, why mess with aas if its for short cycles. if you pin 3x a week you'd have to devide 2ml by 3 which is about 0.7ml (0.7ml x 3 would be 2.1ml per week.) which is 525mg per week a little more than 500mg/wk won't hurt, idk if you're prone to gyno or not but a lot of people are good when they take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) specially arimidex is a really good one. just make sure to take it right up until post cycle therapy (pct) then take either nolva 40/40/20/20 with the clomid (recovery is much better with clomid) or aromasin (a lighter AI) for the whole month of post cycle therapy (pct) @ 12.5mg/day.

Check out RUI for clomid, aromasin or whatever else you think you'll need, they have a huge selection.

 

[peat88]

If it's your 1st cycle, 500mg per week / 10w, is ok you will have hudge gain if your diet and training is good too
You can pin 2 times per week, no need EOD...
The fast ester in it works during 3 days so, just pin 2 times the long esther will start kikn around 2 weeks

 

[size_matters]

or you could do what the novice said ^, I don't give a fk.

 

[Champ130]

Appreciate the page. Need some help. Here is where I am at:

Taking 200 tren E/ week for two weeks.

Wanting to add 200 test prop/ week for remaing 12 wk

Also getting clomid and hcg. Need to know how to add the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and clomid. I decided to add the test, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), and clomid based on what I read on the site. Was originally just going to run the tren. Appreciate all the info.

Past exp. 2 cycles. test only. Gyno issues.

29 years old.
5'5" 168lbs
17% body fat

 

[size_matters]

Appreciate the page. Need some help. Here is where I am at:

Taking 200 tren E/ week for two weeks.

Wanting to add 200 test prop/ week for remaing 12 wk

Also getting clomid and hcg. Need to know how to add the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and clomid. I decided to add the test, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), and clomid based on what I read on the site. Was originally just going to run the tren. Appreciate all the info.

Past exp. 2 cycles. test only. Gyno issues.

29 years old.
5'5" 168lbs
17% body fat

2 things
1st: lol
2nd: start your own thread if you have questions, don't hi-jack someone else's.

 

[pg13drums]

You're right, if i'm going to do it I might aswell go 14 weeks.

How long after my last pin do I wait to start PCT?

Have you had good exp w/ clomid in liquid form from RUI?

Is 40/40/20/20 = to 40 mg of Nolva ED for 2 weeks? And then 20 mg ED for 2 weeks?
How would I dose the liquid clomid?

 

[size_matters]

You're right, if i'm going to do it I might aswell go 14 weeks.

How long after my last pin do I wait to start PCT?

Have you had good exp w/ clomid in liquid form from RUI?

Is 40/40/20/20 = to 40 mg of Nolva ED for 2 weeks? And then 20 mg ED for 2 weeks?
How would I dose the liquid clomid?

How often will you pin? (just curious) but a lot of guys here say they get best results pinning EOD, I don't see why peat88 says twice a week is good, everything that has the prop. ester is usually EOD pins.


start pct 3 weeks after last pin (21 days) & if you want you can run clomid 25mg ED throughout the cycle (see zeek's thread about clomid being a good test booster & acts similar to HCG) I'm actually running RUI's clomid 25mg ED to try it out, last cycle ended mid May. so its just a try, if it works good I'm running clomid ED throughout the next cycle. RUI's products are the real deal and some really good stuff for the price bro!

you're right for the nolva 40/40/20/20 = 4 weeks total. 40mg ED (preferably before bed) for 2 weeks and so on. but a lot of guys say nolva reduces IGF levels which is not good during pct (because you lose your gains) so I wouldn't bother with nolva, clomid all the way bro. and if you feel the need you can get some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or HCGenerate from NTBM which did help me recover from my last cycle.


anyways good luck and if you have more Qs let me know.

 

[peat88]

EOD is better to have stable blood level for sure, but he'll use only 500mg per week twice a week is enough imo.
It's his first time, better for a 1st cycle to learn how to pin properly etc.. he will get good gains anyway
Btw could you tell us what's your diet and training program?

 

[pg13drums]

I wouldn't mind pinning EOD. I'm nervous to pin, not because I'm scared of needles but just a little nervous about injecting a drug into my body. So pinning more often at a lower dose might actually make me feel more comfortable.
Trying as hard as I can to get 1g of protein per pound a day. Prob go to 1.5g of protein a day once I start my cycle. Going to eat like a monster. Eating a combo of chicken breast, lots of lean lunch meat, tuna and lean beef and shakes and whole grains for carbs. I'm waiting a few more months to gather more knowledge and more drugs for post cycle therapy (pct). I appreciate everyone's help very much!
Training very heavy right now.
Mon - chest Tue - legs Wed -Arms Thur -Shoulders/Traps Fri - back Sat/Sun - off

 

[pg13drums]

I'll either pin 3 x a week or EOD

So do you use the Clomid ED on cycle instead of the Armidex? And would you also use Clomid solo for the PCT? What is the dosing for that?
How is your Clomid ED going for you?
What happens if Gyno becomes an issue while on cycle and you're running the Clomid ED?
Thanks so much for all your knowledge man.