my gyno concern....

[fiasco]

What are the chances of getting gyno on my 1st ever cycle of test cypionate and deca? Should I start Nolvadex right at the beginning of the cycle or 2 wks after Im done with the 10 week cycle? or start at 1st sighs on gyno?/

 

[DUANABOL]

Tell us what doses of Test and Deca you are planning on taking for this cycle. With Test and Deca, yes, you could get gyno depending on how your body reacts.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

This is a prime example of why NOT to stack on a first cycle. Let's just say you start to get gyno symptoms, how could you ever tell if it was from the Test or the Deca if you have never taken either one by themselves.

I hope you know that you can run into gyno problems with each compound through different pathways, and that treating them most likely will require different drugs.

 

[fiasco]

see I was really concedering only doing test for the 1st cycle do to your advise and others. but after do my research and talking to a few people it seems I cant avoid gyno. so if I stack or not I have a good chance of getting gyno anyways...right? So if I was only on test cypionate and get gyno I would do Nolvadex to reduce the chances of developing full out gyno. but if I was only on Deca and get gyno? what would I take as a anti-estrogen then? nolvadex also?? If I did only test and see gyno coming on? what do I do stop? the test and try something else and hope I don't get it with the new compond. I don't wanna be a test animal and just be able to the best of my ability to stop it right from the get-go stack or not.

 

[fiasco]

cycle would be 500mg of test once a wk and 250mg of deca once a wk for 10 wks. Just when do you think I should start the nolvadex I know its usually 2 wks after last injection. but im afraid of gyno. should i start it during my cycle just a precaution measure to avoid gyno? even thou if i dont have any sighs of it just yet?>

 

[DUANABOL]

After reading Stone's comments, he's really right. You shouldn't stack on your first cycle. Most of us did it wrong when we were young and learned the hard way. If I could do it over again, I would do a weak Test-only cycle as my first cycle with Nolva on hand for the possibility of gyno occurring. You need to see how these drugs work with your system first. We can all give advice here, and some pretty good advice at that, others..so...so, but the key is to go through trial and error yourself, b/c your body is unique. What works for one doesn't necessarily work for another.

 

[fiasco]

So with TEST CYPIONATE would I only have to worry about gyno? or some other side effects also??. and if so what do I do continue with the test till the 10 wks or just stop? then try to find something new for the next cycle.......

 

[fiasco]

Stone... I know you know what your talking about. and I take your advise to heart and I have learned. but I still have questions. I have questions on things that you explained.. ect... I wanna know as much as poss.. so If I repeat myself don't get upset all im doing is double checking and making sure. so if i ran 500mg of test cypionate for 10wks? by itself would it be smart to do the nolvadex also at the same time for the 10 wks also and then another 4-5 wks after the cycle is done? would this prevent gyno 110% doing it this way...?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

...... so if i ran 500mg of test cypionate for 10wks? by itself would it be smart to do the nolvadex also at the same time for the 10 wks also and then another 4-5 wks after the cycle is done? would this prevent gyno 110% doing it this way...?

I would not run it unless you get gyno symptoms during the cycle. If you take it from the start, you will not know if you were susceptable to gyno from testosterone or not. Chances are pretty good you won't need it, but just make sure you have it on hand just in case.


I'm not sure where you're getting this "4-5 wks after cycle" from but that is not correct.
Start your post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after your last Test injection and take Nolva at 40mg/day for 14 days, followed up by 20mg/day for another 14 days. This is to restart your HPTA and has nothing to do with gyno.

 

[DUANABOL]

would this prevent gyno 110% doing it this way...?

Bro, you can only take precautions, nothing will prevent gyno 110%. There are some people that get gyno even while taking Nolva throughout their whole cycle. My brother did a cycle of D-bol with Nolva and he couldn't handle the gyno symptoms. He had to quit taking the D-bol. He is very sensitive to gyno and he learned that the only steroids that he can do are Var, Winstrol (winny), and Primo. Everything else gives him gyno.

Then there are those that can do all the Test that they want without any gyno problems....never having to touch an anti-estrogen.

The first thing for you to do is to find out how your body responds to Test.

 

[RedRum]

If a cycle of only Test Cypionate created gyno problems for this fella and he wanted to stay with human test only, (Which I believe Cypionate is) What's next after the Cypionate that would be human grade test and not from the vet? That he could try next to see if he was gyno prone to that different compound also?