My testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) journey has offcially started

MBB

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My TRT journey has offcially started

I've been struggling to find a good doctor that would take low T seriously (in Australia they are few and far between) and through this forum I was chatting to another member who recommended a doctor, one who has helped a lot of guys in Australia. So I got in contact with the doctor, but the earliest appointment I could get into see him is January 17. I will also mention that he is interstate, making appointments that much more difficult. However, I was told to email through my latest blood work and a document about myself and the symptoms I was having. So I did just that; my full blood work and a 3 page PDF file. A week later I was told that the doctor wanted to do a phone consultation with me. So on Friday I had a phone consult with this doctor. He is amazing. Very knowledgeable and very pleasant to speak to. He went on to explain the stigma behind Testosterone and the general ignorant attitude toward it in the medical community. Despite the fact this was all stuff I already knew through my research, it was very comforting and reassuring to here it from him.
We spoke about how I've come up against a lot of doctors who tell me I'm in the 'normal' range and he went on to explain how inaccurate and irrelevant those ranges are. He did say however, that with a TT of 9.4 nmol/L (8-38 nmol/L) that would be normal were I 85 y.o. Here's the best bit, he wants to start me on treatment before my appointment in January. He gave me the options for TRT; gels, pellets, long-term injection, short-term injections, etc. I opted for short-term self injections and now am currently awaiting for the script to arrive in the post. He is also sending out another form for more blood tests to be done prior to seeing him in January, to see how the TRT is going. He said that ultimately, for my age he'd like to see me in the mid to high 30's on the reference range (8-38 nmol/L).
He also went on to discuss the possible side effects, such as the reduction on my natural test production and reduced testes size, but said if that becomes a problem there are things we can add (hinting at HCG). He also said that if my estrogen gets too high there is something we can do for that (hinting at an AI).
All in all, he is a very knowledgeable doctor and although I have been dealing with low T for a while I think it may have been worth the wait just to find this guy.
Now all I have to done is wait for the script to show up in the post...Longest. Wait. Ever.
 
Wow! Very happy for you bro! I have a month to go before my MRI and then hopefully a script. Things are so much slower here In Canada.
 
Wow! Very happy for you bro! I have a month to go before my MRI and then hopefully a script. Things are so much slower here In Canada.

I'm surprised it's happening as quickly as it is. Australia's one of those backwards countries when it comes to testosterone, most GP's think it's a curse word here. Fortunately this doc is pretty switched on so I feel really reassured that he'll help me on the road to a happier, healthier life.
 
Wow! Very happy for you bro! I have a month to go before my MRI and then hopefully a script. Things are so much slower here In Canada.


Congrats MBB, doc sounds very knowledgeable, much more than most.

DD55, I know what you mean about things moving slow in Canada. I had my first low t result in March I believe. It took 5 months to get a an appointment with an endocrinologist. Had a first meeting. Did a follow up blood test (5 in total between GP and endo's) and was just prescribed a 3 month trial of Test E at 100mg/week. Had my first shot last Wed and honestly I feel great. Makes me believe I've had low t for many years.
 
Congrats MBB, doc sounds very knowledgeable, much more than most.

DD55, I know what you mean about things moving slow in Canada. I had my first low t result in March I believe. It took 5 months to get a an appointment with an endocrinologist. Had a first meeting. Did a follow up blood test (5 in total between GP and enod's) and was jut prescribed at 3 month trial of Test E at 100mg/week. Had my first shot last Wed and honestly I feel great. Makes me believe I've had low t for many years.

It's stories like that, that make me soo impatient to start treatment. Can't wait to feel good.
Are you doing 1 100mg shot a week or 2x 50mg shots per week?
 
That's great, nothing more frustrating than trying to find a dr who understands the latest protocols...

Any chance of messaging me his details as I will be moving back to Aus next year and will also need a dr straight away to carry on with my current NEBIDO protocol...

Cheers
 
It's stories like that, that make me soo impatient to start treatment. Can't wait to feel good.
Are you doing 1 100mg shot a week or 2x 50mg shots per week?

I'm actually prescribed 200mg every 2 weeks but based on all the great info here don't want any part of that. My endo thinks I've done 200mg for my first injection but I did 100mg. I'm going to do another 100mg next week but right before it, tell my endo I had much less energy and overall well being after the first week and ask to be placed on once a week injections. I will likely go to twice a week after it's dialled in.
 
My script arrived in the post today. It's for a 250mg injection of Primoteston Depot every 2 weeks. Now I just need to figure out how to divide a 250mg one use syringe into smaller doses.
 
Had my first shot this morning, was so nervous and had my adrenaline pumping, but I didn't even feel the injection. Now I'm not sure if I had the placebo effect or not, but about 30 mins to an hour later I had a boost of energy and then what I can only describe as a libido surge and an old friend standing at attention. A couple of hours later I hit the gym for one of the best workouts I've had in weeks. And despite the fact that I've not been sleeping well the last week and have been running off very little sleep I've felt quite alert, more so than normal. Then to top it all off I rubbed one out. This may not sound like much, but considering I haven't even felt the urge for about 3 months, this is a big deal for me.
This is just day 1, can't wait to eventually get dialed in.
 
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Congrats on getting started!

You are feeling a placebo effect, but as you have experienced, there is nothing wrong with that. Give it 3-6 weeks for Test E to kick in and you should start feeling some pretty amazing changes in the way you feel.

And remember to keep an eye on your estradiol. 250mg per week will likely cause aromatization. Did you discuss an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with your doc? Are you injecting 125mg every 3.5 days?
 
Congrats on getting started!

You are feeling a placebo effect, but as you have experienced, there is nothing wrong with that. Give it 3-6 weeks for Test E to kick in and you should start feeling some pretty amazing changes in the way you feel.

And remember to keep an eye on your estradiol. 250mg per week will likely cause aromatization. Did you discuss an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with your doc? Are you injecting 125mg every 3.5 days?

He's prescribed 250mg every two weeks, but I'm pinning 50mg every 3.5 days. That's based purely on the recommendations of people such as yourself, and because he hasn't given me an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) yet. But I see the doc in January and can talk with him further about an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and hCG.

My doctor has given me blood work forms and wanted me to get blood drawn mid way between the fortnightly dose. As I'm pinning twice a week (Tuesday night and Saturday morning) when would be the best time to get blood drawn? Would Friday morning be ok?
 
I guess it'll have to be Tuesday morning then, as the pathology centers aren't open on the Saturday.

Are there any other things, beside an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and hCG, that I should talk to the doctor about implementing in my protocol?
 
My skin is insanely dry today for some reason, way more than normal. Surely this is just a coincidence, right?
 
Its all the masturbating. Lol

In all seriousness, if your E2 gets high it usually causes oily skin, not dry. Probably a coincidence. Keep track of your blood levels too. You might need to donate blood after a bit.
 
Had an appointment with my doc today. Was hoping to get put on Reandron (Aussie Nebido), but due to the fact that my levels are just above the threshold for government subsidies, I'd have to pay the $135 per shot every 6 weeks out of pocket. So we're going to try and get some below the line tests. Seeing as I'm already 2 days overdue for my shot, tomorrow I'm going to get a blood test done. Then in a couple of weeks will miss a shot, let my levels bottom out and then get a second test done. Then I should qualify for some government subsidies.
In the mean time he's given me cheap primo teston depot. Going to be doing 1/2 an ampule (approx 125mg) every 5 days. He's also given me some HCG, prescribed at 1500iu a week. I'm thinking of doing 250-300 iu 2x a week. As well as anastrozole (generic arimidex) .5mg 2x a week. I'm thinking of doing .25mg 2x a week. He's also given me a script for raloxifene, which I'll be doing at 60mg a day for 10 days, then 30mg a day until my gyno is gone.

Thoughts on the protocol?
 
Had an appointment with my doc today. Was hoping to get put on Reandron (Aussie Nebido), but due to the fact that my levels are just above the threshold for government subsidies, I'd have to pay the $135 per shot every 6 weeks out of pocket. So we're going to try and get some below the line tests. Seeing as I'm already 2 days overdue for my shot, tomorrow I'm going to get a blood test done. Then in a couple of weeks will miss a shot, let my levels bottom out and then get a second test done. Then I should qualify for some government subsidies.
In the mean time he's given me cheap primo teston depot. Going to be doing 1/2 an ampule (approx 125mg) every 5 days. He's also given me some HCG, prescribed at 1500iu a week. I'm thinking of doing 250-300 iu 2x a week. As well as anastrozole (generic arimidex) .5mg 2x a week. I'm thinking of doing .25mg 2x a week. He's also given me a script for raloxifene, which I'll be doing at 60mg a day for 10 days, then 30mg a day until my gyno is gone.

Thoughts on the protocol?
What's your reasoning for wanting to switch to Reandron, so quickly? Seems strange that you can qualify for PBS Primoteston but not Reandron.

How are you feeling so far on just the test-e? Had any labs done since you started?

You're lucky to have found a doctor who's happy to script you those meds!
 
What's your reasoning for wanting to switch to Reandron, so quickly? Seems strange that you can qualify for PBS Primoteston but not Reandron.

How are you feeling so far on just the test-e? Had any labs done since you started?

You're lucky to have found a doctor who's happy to script you those meds!

Just read a lot of promising things about Reandron long term. Very tempted by the 1 shot every 6 weeks.
I don't qualify for pbs on the primo teston, it's really cheap so it's less than the pbs limit anyway..

On just the test I wasn't feeling too crash hot, I was aromatising way too much. Had labs done at trough. TT 27.2 (8-38) up from 9.4. E2 - 52.7 (not sure of range). Couldn't get much else as there was an issue with my docs clinic, so he had to call and get results read to him.
 
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