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wizmike

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Sustanon & Test C Together - First Cycle
I am wondering if it's bad to run Sustanon 250 & Test C 200 together. I understand that suggestion for first Cycle would be Test only, but these are both Test.

I am 3.5 weeks into my first cycle. I was on TRT with Testim Gel. My Doctor on my requests switched me to Test C 200mg. While waiting for Insurance to approve the change, I ordered Testosterone to add to the 200mg RX, what I got was Sustanon 250. I started my cycle with this. I split the injection Sunday Morning/Wednesday Night half of each for 450mg a week.

I am 51 Years Old, 6'1" weighed 208 at start 3.5 weeks ago, today I weigh 215.
I am not sure if I actually have gains in that short time, I feel I do and I'm aware some will be water.
I actually feel really good and plan to get more blood work at the 4 week mark.

I also have on hand, just recieved ADEX and I have Novla for PCT, I was on TRT, but at the end of cycle I want to PCT. Just before I started, all my blood work was good, to my surprise my Test level was 962 even being OFF Testim for 3 weeks.

So, My 2 Questions:
- Is there any issue Running Sustanon and Test C together?
- Should I just keep ADEX on hand or should I start now in my cycle?

I appreciate any advice you can give me. I might add that I have since received TEST E and another Sustanon that I will save for a second cycle, unless I should switch it up now to run all the same gear.

I hope you can understand what I wrote, New to this site.

Thanks, Mike
 
So you started injecting (for TRT) at the same time you started the cycle? If so, that's going to make dialing things in a pain in the ass.
 
wizmike said:
Sustanon & Test C Together - First Cycle
I am wondering if it's bad to run Sustanon 250 & Test C 200 together. I understand that suggestion for first Cycle would be Test only, but these are both Test.

I am 3.5 weeks into my first cycle. I was on TRT with Testim Gel. My Doctor on my requests switched me to Test C 200mg. While waiting for Insurance to approve the change, I ordered Testosterone to add to the 200mg RX, what I got was Sustanon 250. I started my cycle with this. I split the injection Sunday Morning/Wednesday Night half of each for 450mg a week.

I am 51 Years Old, 6'1" weighed 208 at start 3.5 weeks ago, today I weigh 215.
I am not sure if I actually have gains in that short time, I feel I do and I'm aware some will be water.
I actually feel really good and plan to get more blood work at the 4 week mark.

I also have on hand, just recieved ADEX and I have Novla for PCT, I was on TRT, but at the end of cycle I want to PCT. Just before I started, all my blood work was good, to my surprise my Test level was 962 even being OFF Testim for 3 weeks.

So, My 2 Questions:
- Is there any issue Running Sustanon and Test C together?
- Should I just keep ADEX on hand or should I start now in my cycle?

I appreciate any advice you can give me. I might add that I have since received TEST E and another Sustanon that I will save for a second cycle, unless I should switch it up now to run all the same gear.

I hope you can understand what I wrote, New to this site.

Thanks, Mike
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- Running Sustanon in conjunction with TRT is not the best idea, sustanon creates T blood levels that are all over the place, I would have just run more Test C.
- Even though your running TRT, your going to do PCT? Why? do you like being miserable? just go back to your TRT dose.
- Start the Adex now, but with Sustanon its going to be hard to dial in your protocol.

... If I were you I would get some more Test C, seems to me like you want to "blast and cruise" but are confused with how to approach it.

I would suggest blasting for 16 weeks on 500 mg Test C, with Adex/HCG and then go back to TRT dose, get rid of the sustanon.
 
I know, I wanted to delete the other one, this should have been the area it was posted to, instead of the other.
But you responded on the other with some good advice.
Rookie Mistake, Not trying to cross post it.
 
Thanks Copaseet.
I agree with you on switching to all Test C...I actually got Test E. Would that be better than Sust, changing it up to
250 Test-C / 250 Test-E for 500mg a week? If I start ADEX, what mg to you suggest? There are a few opinions on waiting for sides before ADEX.
Your suggestion of 500mg Test-C with Adex is what I initially wanted to do, they just had Sus.

As Far as PCT I have Novla on hand, but you say, I want to be miserable? Do you think my leveles will drop that low to make me miserable and not have sufficent natty test production. You not the only one that suggested No PCT and go back to TRT, just trying to wrap my head around that.

Thanks for your time and opinion.
 
Use the sust up front because of the blend of long and short esters. Cyp has a shorter HL than test decanoate which is 100mg in every ml of sust. It makes for an easier pct.
 
copaseet said:
- Running Sustanon in conjunction with TRT is not the best idea, sustanon creates T blood levels that are all over the place, I would have just run more Test C.
- Even though your running TRT, your going to do PCT? Why? do you like being miserable? just go back to your TRT dose.
- Start the Adex now, but with Sustanon its going to be hard to dial in your protocol.

... If I were you I would get some more Test C, seems to me like you want to "blast and cruise" but are confused with how to approach it.

I would suggest blasting for 16 weeks on 500 mg Test C, with Adex/HCG and then go back to TRT dose, get rid of the sustanon.
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I already pinned today, so perhaps on Sunday I will go all Test C and start the ADEX. I just need to figure out calulation for dosage. I'm figuring from what I've seen I should be doing 0.5 mg EOD, does that sopund about right?
 
wizmike said:
I already pinned today, so perhaps on Sunday I will go all Test C and start the ADEX. I just need to figure out calulation for dosage. I'm figuring from what I've seen I should be doing 0.5 mg EOD, does that sopund about right?
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Maybe start lower like .25 e3d. You can adjust from there
 
tbonexl said:
Bloodwork...
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Should I ask for all these Test in the Picture, it's Male Hormone Test Panel?

Nevemind....
Megatron28 answered my question..

Read the 'Ology FAQs Sticky Thread for more info on AAS, Cycles, Getting Blood Work and much more:

Thank You...

(I hope to learn how to delete a Post here soon instead of just editing them.)
 
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wizmike said:
Thanks Copaseet.
I agree with you on switching to all Test C...I actually got Test E. Would that be better than Sust, changing it up to
250 Test-C / 250 Test-E for 500mg a week? If I start ADEX, what mg to you suggest? There are a few opinions on waiting for sides before ADEX.
Your suggestion of 500mg Test-C with Adex is what I initially wanted to do, they just had Sus.

As Far as PCT I have Novla on hand, but you say, I want to be miserable? Do you think my leveles will drop that low to make me miserable and not have sufficent natty test production. You not the only one that suggested No PCT and go back to TRT, just trying to wrap my head around that.

Thanks for your time and opinion.
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Test C & Test E are essentially the same thing, start with one at 500mg a week, then when you run out continue with the other one at 500mg a week.

With above dose you should use 0.5mg Adex EOD, you should also add HCG if you want to preserve fertility (no guarantees though).

I did what you did just recently, ended a cycle went on PCT and then wanted to take a break before I got on TRT, it sucked balls, big hairy balls.... I just got on TRT 2 weeks ago, I could not function, get out of bed, weepy, tired, just all around miserable.
 
Dude.... if you just started TRT, why the f*ck are you cycling all ready???

No.1 priority right now is dialing in a TRT protocol that will stand you in good stead for the rest of your life - this isn't a quick fix, this needs to be done over a good number of months... and with the full backing of your doctor.

You go in for a blood draw and your T levels are off the charts - bang goes all the faith and trust your doctor put in you, and bang goes your TRT.

You have the rest of your life to blast and cruise - prioritise this for now!
 
bigben66 said:
Dude.... if you just started TRT, why the f*ck are you cycling all ready???

No.1 priority right now is dialing in a TRT protocol that will stand you in good stead for the rest of your life - this isn't a quick fix, this needs to be done over a good number of months... and with the full backing of your doctor.

You go in for a blood draw and your T levels are off the charts - bang goes all the faith and trust your doctor put in you, and bang goes your TRT.

You have the rest of your life to blast and cruise - prioritise this for now!
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Thank you BB. I meant to follow up my earlier question but got side tracked. You not only risk pissing off the doc, but you will be chasing your tail around for some time trying to get dialed in.
 
bigben66 said:
Dude.... if you just started TRT, why the f*ck are you cycling all ready???

No.1 priority right now is dialing in a TRT protocol that will stand you in good stead for the rest of your life - this isn't a quick fix, this needs to be done over a good number of months... and with the full backing of your doctor.

You go in for a blood draw and your T levels are off the charts - bang goes all the faith and trust your doctor put in you, and bang goes your TRT.

You have the rest of your life to blast and cruise - prioritise this for now!
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I have been on TRT for 6 Years...My Doc checked my levels Pre-Cycle and he put me on Test-C instead of Gels.

I am going to a Private Lab to have Bloodwork now in Cycle for 1 month. Excatly for the reason of dialing it in.

Thanks
 
DucBase said:
Thank you BB. I meant to follow up my earlier question but got side tracked. You not only risk pissing off the doc, but you will be chasing your tail around for some time trying to get dialed in.
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Thanks Guys.....
Facts are, I am already in Cycle for a Month Now. I have already been on TRT for 6 Years.
I have all my Gear, I am being Tested at Private Labs and I will come back here and share my Blood Results.

Just looking for support...
 
wizmike said:
I have been on TRT for 6 Years...My Doc checked my levels Pre-Cycle and he put me on Test-C instead of Gels.

I am going to a Private Lab to have Bloodwork now in Cycle for 1 month. Excatly for the reason of dialing it in.

Thanks
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You're not making any sense OP....

You might have been on TRT for 6 years, but how long have you been on injections?
 
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