Need insight on Test Prop/NPP??

[Session25]

hey, im planning my 2nd cycle, first cycle was Test E for 12 weeks. anyway, im new to even looking at the shorter esters but it sounds alot more beneficial compared to test e and deca because it kicks in quickly and its quicker to recover. here are my questions:

1. what would the best duration be? is 10 weeks good?
2. how much test prop and npp should i take? and should i pin EOD?
ive been researching and there is so many different opinions, i just want to know what is the normal dosing, duration and time of injections. i was going to run test E 600mg/wk and deca 400mg/wk, but now i want to switch to the shorter esters. so i guess what dosages should i use tht would be equivalent to the test/deca cycle. (as far as possible gains go). thanks

 

[inhuman2008]

i would runt hat cycle 12 weeks.
test:650
npp:650 or 400

pin eod

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

1-10 weeks is minimum time, 12 better
2-Test prop minimum dosage 100 mg EOD, NPP 200 mg 2 times per week is good. NPP can be injected 2 time per week.
If you can cycle prop should be at least same dosage with NPP. Maybe a little more
PS : Why you dont run TPP and NPP ????

 

[inhuman2008]

i would pin npp eod. imo 2x per week is not enough

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

according to half life , it can be done 2 times per week but sure EOD is ok also.
This is just easier

 

[Session25]

i dont mind pinning EOD if needed, id like to just pin both compounds at the same time. so far ive been told test:650mg, and npp 400-600. and then someone said test 100 EOD and npp 400/wk? thats a pretty big difference, confusinggggggggg

 

[inhuman2008]

pin 1 1/2 ml of test eod
pin 1 or 1 1/2 ml of npp eod

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

i said the minimum, dosage should be decided according to you
weight , experience etc...
Inhuman gave common dosages , so you should figure out

 

[XELFLEC]

Hmm I was planning teste/deca but this seems more appealing.

 

[Session25]

i said the minimum, dosage should be decided according to you
weight , experience etc...
Inhuman gave common dosages , so you should figure out

ahh my bad man,

 

[KingBF]

pin 1 1/2 ml of test eod
pin 1 or 1 1/2 ml of npp eod

This is the cycle im on right now.
test p-150mg eod
npp-100mg eod
dbol- 20 prewokout
aromasin-12.5 eod
cabaser- .25 e4d

cycle will be run 10 or 12 weeks and npp stops two weeks before you stop test

 

[Session25]

This is the cycle im on right now.
test p-150mg eod
npp-100mg eod
dbol- 20 prewokout
aromasin-12.5 eod
cabaser- .25 e4d

cycle will be run 10 or 12 weeks and npp stops two weeks before you stop test

so that means youre running test prop 450-600/wk and npp 300-400/wk, hows that working out so far?

 

[KingBF]

so that means youre running test prop 450-600/wk and npp 300-400/wk, hows that working out so far?

so far so good. im only two weeks in right now. first time with npp so ill adjust from 100mg eod if need be at the 4 week point. its test 525wk and 350 nppwk and im also running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 250iu x2 wk and will do the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast before post cycle therapy (pct). nolva and clomid for pct

 

[DreRaider]

I'm currently running 600mg test cyp and 400mg NPP. I am absolutely loving it!!!! Almost identical to your cycle, with the exception of my longer ester test. I've zero estro sides, or negative sides in general for that matter. This too was my first time running shorter esters and I couldn't be more happy. My gains in both strength and mass have been steady and significant, but not mindblowing or overwhelming, which I dig. I was worried going in to the stack that the 600mg of test would lead to some water retention, but I'm as hard and cut as ever. I've put on almost 10lbs of quality lean mass in just over 2 weeks. I don't know if my experience is typical, but I from what I can tell, you should be incredibly happy with your stack!

 

[Sharmacus]

What were your results like on the test enanthate cycle? I'll be starting mine soon and it's my first.

 

[Session25]

What were your results like on the test enanthate cycle? I'll be starting mine soon and it's my first.

I went from 172-198 on my Test E cycle. My diet in PCT was rough so i dropped back down to 183-ish. that was a year and a half ago, since ive been eating a ton and taking some test e (very underdosed come to find out), but i weigh 202 now. hoping to reach 215-220 on this prop/npp cycle

 

[Fish44]

This is what my NPP cycle is going to look like

Sust-1-16 500mgs
NPP- 1-14400mgs PIn M/W/F
Dbol 1-4 40mgs ED
Hcg 3-16 500iu/wk split into two injections a week.

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

Why Susta ?

 

[inhuman2008]

Why Susta ?

wondered the same thing. why not prop?

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

^^ yes exactly