Need opinions/advice on my first cycle

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Nighthawk1979

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Im 35 years old. 6 feet 190 lbs. No idea what my body fat is...Id say I have an "average" body type. Ive been researching this and asking questions to learn as much as I can. I do not take this lightly. Heres what Ive done so far and have planned. I eat healthy...and A LOT. I make sure to get at least 200 grams of protein in me every day. Im at the gym 5 days a week.

Three weeks ago I started doing 1cc of 250mg test e every Monday. This upcoming Monday Im going to start doing 1/2cc 100mg tren a & 1/2 cc test e every Mon, Wed, Fri. Im also going to start taking 40mg dbol on Monday when I start the tren/test EOD. I plan on taking the dbol for 40 days. Im going to run the tren/test for 12 weeks and then stop the tren and continue with test e for a couple weeks after the tren is done. Ive heard tren can shut your system down pretty hard so continuing with test e for a couple weeks after the tren is finished seems like a good idea. I definitely plan on using hcg toward the end of my cycle and for at least a week after the cycle is done. Im probably going to get some Nolvadex just in case. I dont think Ill need it as Ive read some research that gyno doesnt affect everyone and a tell tale sign to know if your going to be susceptible to it is by knowing if that allele is strongly present in your family. Strangely, you can tell by the bust size of your grandmother on your fathers size. If she was "blessed" in that area, youre more susceptible. My grandmother was not "blessed" so I think Im good. Better safe than sorry though.

Im a beginner and dont want to go overboard. Ive done my research...I think and any advice and suggestions are MUCH appreciated.

Thank you.
 
Tren for a 1st cycle, bad idea.

Where is your AI? PCT?

For someone who has done "research" you don't seem to have it all together.
 
Hes a grown man if he wants tren let him have tren hes not gonna die. Control estrogen with ai and dont cry if you get night sweats youll be fine
 
I got 30ml 2.5 mg liquid letro. Like I said, Im a beginner and it seems there are a lot of varying opinions on just about evetything. Im trying to learn. Thats why Im asking questions. What would you recommend with the letro? Should i run it during my cycle? If so, how much? 1mg eod?
 
thats way too much letro for the test your taking. Can you get arimidex? Letro is powerful you can use it but youll have to figure out what works way lower dose though
 
Can I ask why I should not do tren. Im aware of the potential side effects. Im willing to deal with them. I thought tren opened up your receptors and allowed other drugs to work more effectively
 
Bud you have to be very careful with that letro. Your test dose is very low and you will not need much letro to completely kill your estradiol. Try 100 mcg e3d but that may even be too much. Letro is no joke man. I think that you should wait before messing with tren at least until you know how you react to test by itself. If you do decide to run the tren then you will need some prami or caber on hand to combat prolactin sides. Look into proper pct protocols. The opening up receptors thing is just bro science so don't run tren based off of that assumption. Do some more reading and good luck pal.
 
Letro is super powerful, be VERY careful with it. Use it in a super low dose, such as 0.25mg E3.5D and then get a blood test in 2 weeks to see where that puts you. If you are going to play with Letro, you NEED to get blood tests VERY frequently so you can dial it in. You can easily remove ALL your estrogen and you will hate yourself if that happens.

I did that regimen and it dropped my E2 level (non-sensitive array) from around 54 to 23 in two weeks...and kept it there. Take note that I was using 80mg of test-cyp and 250IU of HCG E3.5D. Everyone is different, so your results WILL vary.
 
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cybrsage said:
Letro is super powerful, be VERY careful with it. Use it in a super low dose, such as 0.25mg E3.5D and then get a blood test in 2 weeks to see where that puts you. If you are going to play with Letro, you NEED to get blood tests VERY frequently so you can dial it in. You can easily remove ALL your estrogen and you will hate yourself if that happens.

I did that regimen and it dropped my E2 level (non-sensitive array) from around 54 to 23 in two weeks...and kept it there. Take note that I was using 80mg of test-cyp and 250IU of HCG E3.5D. Everyone is different, so your results WILL vary.
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At the 250 mcg that you mention he will most likely crash his estrogen. If I were him I would dilute that shit in half and try to get closer to 100mcg and then get blood work. I would rather be on the higher end of estraidol than crashed. Maybe he will end up actually needing 250 mcg e3d.
 
Nighthawk1979 said:
Can I ask why I should not do tren. Im aware of the potential side effects. Im willing to deal with them. I thought tren opened up your receptors and allowed other drugs to work more effectively
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Bump i too would like to know how "he can fuck himself up bad" people act like tren is heroin lol
 
Mr Hawk here is 35 years old is not a fat ass, Biggest problem wth tren is INSOMNIA sleep is one of the most important things we need in life. So you take away that then comes anxiety,, mood swings,, feeling like crap. High estrogen can cause similar effects. Estrogen he can control his test dose is super low, the sleep issue if he has it everyone goes through it,, it gets better with time. Also you need a strong mind with tren its definitely a mental thing,, it can mess with your head. But Hawk is 35 and im sure can handle it.

Id be more concern someone drinking heavy every weekend,, snorting cocaine or popping pills than taking tren and working out hard and eating like a bodybuilder. Who came up with thks tren is the devil talk? Have any of you tried staying on and getting passed the side effects? I know first time i tried it in my first cycle it was last 5 weeks of my 12 weeker test cycle. I had it in my brain how toxic it is and pretty much got placebo effect that i will never run it again.

Truth is i experiment with it,, call me what you want addict well we all are But its not as bad as everyone has made it out to be. Its a very good and important staple when you want to look like a bodybuilder. You dont have to like tren but no need to scare everyone. If your responsible and HEALTHY there is not alot to worry about.

THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY... I WILL NOW GO DO MY MORNING RITUAL SIT NAKED IN A CIRLE OF 10 CANDLES BECAUSE THERE IS 10 # IN TRENBOLONE.... AND I WILL POP OPEN A VIAL AND POOR TREN ON MY BODY AND PRAY
 
tury694 said:
At the 250 mcg that you mention he will most likely crash his estrogen. If I were him I would dilute that shit in half and try to get closer to 100mcg and then get blood work. I would rather be on the higher end of estraidol than crashed. Maybe he will end up actually needing 250 mcg e3d.
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just went through this I think. Wasn't able to get bloodwork but all symptoms of crashed E2 approx 250mcg e3.5d dsys of injection of 250mg test e.
 
49ER said:
Bump i too would like to know how "he can fuck himself up bad" people act like tren is heroin lol
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Tren is way more potent than heroin. When I am trying to get fucked up I skip the weed, benzos, horse tranquilizers, smack and coke, and I jump straight on the tren. Shit is super potent and makes me hallucinate, piss orange, and grow crazy muscles. Tren's a real hardcore drug that only a maniac would use.
 
Nighthawk1979 said:
Awesome
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It is awesome man, but I think you should do test only at like 600mg per week. If you are dead set on running tren make sure that you know the sides involved and are prepared to deal with them. If you post later complaining about sides people will flame you badly. Don't forget to pick up your prami since I think you already made up your mind...
 
Ya no whining "oh i get sweaty at night" "ooh i cant sleep" "ooh i act like a bitch and yell at my girlfriend" "ayayay im getting so muscular all the bitches keep staring at me cuz they wanna fuck" lol if you want something bad enough you'll do what it takes and deal with certain things
 
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