Oh NO! Another post cycle therapy (pct) question!

[liftstrong12]

Oh NO! Another PCT question!

First I want to thank everyone for the help and guidance I've received thus far. I wanted to run my first aas cycle with goals of adding some lean/dry mass and strength...I have! I've added about 22lbs of muscle and dropped about 8 pounds of fat...bug difference and I've never felt better. Still at about 14% bf but started higher.

I've read all the stickies, I've researched, I've had a solid game plan before I started my cycle...but now I just want to have a final look through by some of the more experienced bros. I ran into a little gyno during my Test P / Anavar (var) cycle. Here is what I did.
(This was supposed to be a 10 week cycle but my vials seemed to be a bit light, or I pulled a little too much each time so I ended up with 9 weeks.)

Weeks 1-9 400mg Test P
Weeks 5-9 80mg Anavar (var)
Adex 1mg ed (started at .25mg eod til Gyno at week 5)
Nolva 25mg ed (started when gyno appeared)
Weeks 7-9 500iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2 x week (I got this late but wanted t kick start production anyways)

Now I'm Here ready for post cycle therapy (pct). I just pinned for the last time (gonna miss it) for this cycle.

In 5 days I will start my PCT.

Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 50/50/25/25/25/25 (I only have 25mg caps)

HERE ARE MY QUESTIONS!!!!
1. Does the above look good?
2. I still have a ton of Anavar (var) left....is there anyway to add to PCT since it is not suppressive...taper off or straight through?
3. Should I incorporate/substitute Adex or Letro (I have both) since I have gyno present that has not gone away yet?

 

[DreDay187]

1) PCT looks good

2) Anavar (var) IS suppressive so not unless you want to counteract pct and prolong suppression

3) no, Nolva is better for gyno reversal than AI's. Keep the nolva until gyno reverses even if it takes longer than 4wks. Run your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) up until you start PCT.

 

[liftstrong12]

1) PCT looks good

2) Anavar (var) IS suppressive so not unless you want to counteract pct and prolong suppression

3) no, Nolva is better for gyno reversal than AI's. Keep the nolva until gyno reverses even if it takes longer than 4wks. Run your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) up until you start PCT.

I'm at 1mg ed. Can you recommend how to run adex up?

 

[DreDay187]

I'm at 1mg ed. Can you recommend how to run adex up?

Have you had blood work to determine you need such an aggressive dose of adex or are you just trying to get rid of the gyno?

If blood work verified that you're dosing it optimally, I'd run it at that dosage up until the first day of post cycle therapy (pct). Drop it after that. Nolva will fight and reverse the gyno much better than any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) ever would.

 

[liftstrong12]

Have you had blood work to determine you need such an aggressive dose of adex or are you just trying to get rid of the gyno?

If blood work verified that you're dosing it optimally, I'd run it at that dosage up until the first day of post cycle therapy (pct). Drop it after that. Nolva will fight and reverse the gyno much better than any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) ever would.

At .25mg ed, and after onset of gyno my e2 was 65. Upped to 1mg ed and came down to 45. Those were my last labs from a week and a half ago.

 

[DreDay187]

At .25mg ed, and after onset of gyno my e2 was 65. Upped to 1mg ed and came down to 45. Those were my last labs from a week and a half ago.

Ok perfect. Just keep that dose until you start post cycle therapy (pct). Once on PCT drop the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and use the SERMs nolva and clomid for four weeks. After 4wks keep up the nolva at 20-25mg/day until gyno goes away.

 

[liftstrong12]

Ok perfect. Just keep that dose until you start post cycle therapy (pct). Once on PCT drop the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and use the SERMs nolva and clomid for four weeks. After 4wks keep up the nolva at 20-25mg/day until gyno goes away.

I appreciate it Dre, good looking out

 

[liftstrong12]

One last thing, could I run Anavar (var) til pct or stop today with last pin of test and hcg?

 

[DreDay187]

One last thing, could I run Anavar (var) til pct or stop today with last pin of test and hcg?

You're welcome bro. I've seen some people run Anavar (var) up until PCT but I personally wouldn't. It is suppressive and leading up to PCT is when you want all exogenous hormones to be clearing. Plus test base is a good idea even for Anavar (var) and this is when your test levels are dropping and trough. Plus you're running test prop so it'll only take a few days for that to clear, a few days of Anavar (var) isn't going to make the cycle spectacular if it hasn't been already.