Pct overview wanting advice/opinions

[ciao32]

Hello all, just wanted some feedback on my pct plan and even cycle (this will be my third cycle, other two were just test alone, I still consider myself a novice).


Stats: 24 years old, 5'11, 230lbs, 16%bf, 3rd cycle

Main goal is quality muscle gains and some strength gains. Decided on sust250, eq, and possibly adding anavar.

Plan:
Week 1-12: Sust 500mg wk
Week 1-12: EQ 400mg wk
Week 5-12: Anavar 40mg ed

For pct I have hcg, clomid, and nolvadex.

Week 4-12: hcg 500ius twice a week.

Pct
Clomid: 100/50/50/50 (week 15-19)
nolva: 40/40/20/20 (week 15-19)

1. The dosing for sust and eq good or should I bump it up to sust 750mg and eq 600mg? If I just do 500mg of sust would doing it Mondays and Thursdays be frequent enough or would it be more ideal to do 750mg m,w,f?

2. With the anavar being oral should I use it in a shorter time frame for the liver toxicity? Should I increase the dose to 50mg ed for 5 weeks instead or stick with 40mg ed for 7 weeks? And should I use it in the beginning or towards the end?

3. Should I run the hcg during cycle or post cycle?

4. Is the pct timing good? I wait about 3 weeks after the last shot to start and run it for about 4 weeks?

5. Should I get arimidex?

 

[Megatron28]

Yes, you need an AI. Arimidex or Aromasin.

hCG should not be used during PCT as it is suppressive to the HPTA. It should be used on cycle from Day 1 up until about 3 days before PCT starts.

Only add one new compound. Adding two will make it so you don't know what to attribute issues to. So save the anavar for a future cycle. And 7 weeks is too long in my opinion.

Sust has short esters included in the blend so I recommend pinning EOD.

Start PCT four weeks after the last inject of Sust as it also has very long esters in it. They need time to clear. Better yet, run Test C or E.

Remember that EQ will severely raise HCT so donate blood and be prepared to do self-phlebotomies.

Best yet, wait until you are 25 years old to use AAS. Your brain/endocrine system are still developing.

What is your blood work plan?

 

[ciao32]

Thank you for the feedback.
I will get Arimidex
I already have the sust so I will do m,w,f.
I turn 25 in a few months, I probably won't start this cycle for a few more weeks.
I got my blood work checked and everything is in good order.
Yeah I've read one should donate blood around every 4 weeks while on eq

1. I'm willing to drop one of the compounds. Should I run the anavar or eq? If anavar, should I start at week 1 or towards the end of the sust cycle?

 

[Megatron28]

Thank you for the feedback.
I will get Arimidex
I already have the sust so I will do m,w,f.
I turn 25 in a few months, I probably won't start this cycle for a few more weeks.
I got my blood work checked and everything is in good order.
Yeah I've read one should donate blood around every 4 weeks while on eq

1. I'm willing to drop one of the compounds. Should I run the anavar or eq? If anavar, should I start at week 1 or towards the end of the sust cycle?

As stated earlier, I would drop the anavar and save it for your next cycle.

Can you post your blood work results please?

For Sust, I would go EOD instead of MWF.

 

[ciao32]

Post cycle question(s) and advice

Hi everyone, had a question in regards to pct plan:

I'm running this cycle:
Week 1-12: Sust 750mg wk
Week 1-12: EQ 400mg wk

(My stats if curious: about to turn 25, this would be my third cycle, I'm 5'11 and 235 pounds at 16-17%bf)

For pct I was going to get hcg, clomid, and nolvadex.

Week 4-12: hcg 500ius twice a week.

Pct
Clomid: 100/50/50/50 (week 15-19)
nolva: 40/40/20/20 (week 15-19)

1. My main question is one required to use nolvadex, clomid, and arimidex or just two of the three? And what would a price estimate be for getting all three?

 

[bigben66]

First of all OP, Equipoise should be run for longer than 12 weeks, it doesn't really start to shine until weeks 5 or 6. Also you need to drop the Equipoise approx. 1 week before the Sustanon with regards to PCT.

If you are insistent on running Equipoise, I would also recommend donating blood before and after the cycle, as it increases red blood cell count and thickens the blood rapidly, I would also have your HCT checked before you cycle, because if it is high now, it'll be off the charts once you're on cycle - and this can lead to all sorts of issues.

Your PCT of Clomid and Nolvadex looks ok. Just remember to stop the Eq 24 days beforehand and the sustanon about 18 days before.

You will need to run an AI such as Arimidex whilst on cycle and leading up to PCT to manage estradiol - a good start point would be 0.5mg every third day. This can be raised or lowered depending on mid-cycle bloods.

I would also recommend running HCG @ 2 x 250iu SubQ injections per week throughout the cycle and up to 3 days before commencing PCT to ensure the testes stay full and receptive for recovery.

Good Luck
BigBen

 

[Hypnotix]

Hi everyone, had a question in regards to pct plan:

I'm running this cycle:
Week 1-12: Sust 750mg wk
Week 1-12: EQ 400mg wk

(My stats if curious: about to turn 25, this would be my third cycle, I'm 5'11 and 235 pounds at 16-17%bf)

For pct I was going to get hcg, clomid, and nolvadex.

Week 4-12: hcg 500ius twice a week.

Pct
Clomid: 100/50/50/50 (week 15-19)
nolva: 40/40/20/20 (week 15-19)

1. My main question is one required to use nolvadex, clomid, and arimidex or just two of the three? And what would a price estimate be for getting all three?

Price out the ancillaries yourself on RUI's page. They have all the things you listed at the bottom, AND you need all three. 100% for sure need all three, everyone will tell you that here.

I just wouldn't run EQ personally.. takes too long for inception for what it does, and then, if you take the dramatic hematocrit rise into account vs. EQ's actual positive side profile.. it just doesn't weigh out right. Not enough goods to justify using it..

Do Deca instead, and for 14-16 wks.

 

[bigben66]

I just wouldn't run EQ personally.. takes too long for inception for what it does, and then, if you take the dramatic hematocrit rise into account vs. EQ's actual positive side profile.. it just doesn't weigh out right. Not enough goods to justify using it..

Depends entirely on the goals... me personally I like to stay dry and tight whether bulking or cutting, and equipoise is perfect for this, plus endurance climbs off the charts.

I've had 3 runs on equipoise and loved all of them, whereas I've ran Deca twice and had E2 complications - so to single Eq out is wrong. They both have their pitfalls.

If you want to bulk and aren't bothered about looking soft with it - then sure, go for Deca and stay on top of estradiol management.

If you want to stay tighter and look better, then run the Eq - as long as you are on top of blood donations, BP and HCT - you'll be just fine.

It's entirely personal choice OP.

 

[luckypaul]

Hi everyone, had a question in regards to pct plan:

I'm running this cycle:
Week 1-12: Sust 750mg wk
Week 1-12: EQ 400mg wk

(My stats if curious: about to turn 25, this would be my third cycle, I'm 5'11 and 235 pounds at 16-17%bf)

For pct I was going to get hcg, clomid, and nolvadex.

Week 4-12: hcg 500ius twice a week.

Pct
Clomid: 100/50/50/50 (week 15-19)
nolva: 40/40/20/20 (week 15-19)

1. My main question is one required to use nolvadex, clomid, and arimidex or just two of the three? And what would a price estimate be for getting all three?

I don't believe you need adex for pct. It is more likely to crash your E2 than anything.

You are also starting your pct way too early. WAY TOO EARLY. Eq was a poor choice for a 12 week cycle. Try week 17-18 to start pct.

 

[Megatron28]

I have merged your two threads since they seem to be on the same topic. One thread will suffice.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

500 IU is great while on but while your waiting for the ester to clear you need at least 1,000 IU twice a week, preferably 1500 IU 2x.

 

[tbonexl]

Depends entirely on the goals... me personally I like to stay dry and tight whether bulking or cutting, and equipoise is perfect for this, plus endurance climbs off the charts.

I've had 3 runs on equipoise and loved all of them, whereas I've ran Deca twice and had E2 complications - so to single Eq out is wrong. They both have their pitfalls.

If you want to bulk and aren't bothered about looking soft with it - then sure, go for Deca and stay on top of estradiol management.

If you want to stay tighter and look better, then run the Eq - as long as you are on top of blood donations, BP and HCT - you'll be just fine.

It's entirely personal choice OP.

Bulking on deca and looking soft while doing so depends on diet and estrogen management. You said it yourself, you had problems dialing in your ai on deca. I wouldn't single deca out as having a soft look while using it.

Eq on the other hand can be a pain to run. I've used it before a few times. For what it's worth, I wouldn't use it again. 600+mgs per week with not much to write home about isn't worth pinning. I would rather spend the money on deca and mast...