PCT question for Epistane

[Silent Bob]

I am on week 3 of my first cycle. I am running epistane 20/30/30/30.

I had planned on ramping up to 40 for weeks 3 and 4, but the results have been so good that I really am content. The only sides thus far have been back pumps and mild acne.

I am 35, an experienced lifter, and this is my first cycle.

So for PCT I have clomid on hand, HCG generate, and PCTx3 by vital labs. The question is basically a matter of structuring. Should I start the clomid immediately? I have read that it's sometimes best to wait a bit of time before beginning the SERM.

The other questions just have to do with the timing of the PCT 3 and HCgenerate. Any guidance is greatly appreciated

 

[JJames]

Start ALL of your PCT the day after your done with your epi.

 

[gymrat827]

Start everything the next day after ur last day of cycle.

Start the serm too. Some guys try and start it later or get away not using it all together but all ur doing is letting ur gains go.


If u still wana make gains in pct osta would be something to consider getting. The new sarms place has a sale now. Sarms1.

Osta will keep your strength up and will help cut a bit of fat too. Look around and you ll see it in guys pct"s. anywhere from 15-25mg a day will almost make pct a cycle itself. After just keep taking hcgenerate for a few more wks. So your 4wk run turns into a 8wk. Lots more time for gains, and allowing for the new muscle to mature so it stays put.


GL

 

[Silent Bob]

Thanks for the input you guys. I will definitely look into getting some Osta too.

 

[dizzy911]

I am using out a for p.c.t.. your saying a serm or a.i isn't necessary?

 

[MMA732]

serm and ai such as PES Erase - The Best Estrogen Blocker Supplement For A Low Cost are a must for pct

 

[haritec]

Just one man's experience - but I tried PES Erase for estrogen control while taking clomid. Had bloods done before and after - it did nothing for my estrogen ( which was above the top of the reference range). I switched to Exemestane 12.5 mg EOD and dropped estrogen well. For PCT - personally - I would not rely on OTC serm or AI - but OTC for testosterone boosting, liver support, prolactin / cortisol control etc are nice adds if you can afford them.

 

[MMA732]

Just one man's experience - but I tried PES Erase for estrogen control while taking clomid. Had bloods done before and after - it did nothing for my estrogen ( which was above the top of the reference range). I switched to Exemestane 12.5 mg EOD and dropped estrogen well. For PCT - personally - I would not rely on OTC serm or AI - but OTC for testosterone boosting, liver support, prolactin / cortisol control etc are nice adds if you can afford them.

how much erase did u take, i find Orbit Nutrition - Buy PES Erase Pro Extremely Cheap to be more potnt though

 

[Colbert]

All you need to get is clomid or Nolva with some DAA.

If you are going to run clomid (research level not some supplement) run it at 75/50/35/25 with 3g of DAA

I highley recommend against SARMS such as Osta or S4 because blood works on other forums have shown multiple times that osta, s4, and other SARMS suppress your test level and they should be treated like mild PH like EPI. So please don't run them during your pct or right after your pct. Also I have ran them multiple times, I have ran them during PCT, right after PCT, and I know how they effect your body and so on and so forth. But yea they are blood works on bunch of forums...just take some time and google it.

 

[Silent Bob]

I have been running my original PCT, and so far so good. The last week of the Epi I began experiencing lethargy, and some testicular atrophy. I noticed yesterday that my boys are back to normal, and I do not feel lethargic.

My strength is still up. I no longer have the all day pumps though, and I have less endurance in the gym than I did when I was on.

The Epi really was big on results and the sides were really minimal: dry joints, back pumps, the aforementioned lethargy and atrophy. I can't be certain about its effects on the hairline as I am already a victim of male pattern baldness.

I will definitely run the Epi again, next time I will start at 30mg and increase to 40mg. I had been on a pretty significant plateau and this cycle was right on time.

 

[Colbert]

good to here that everything is going good for on your EPI cycle bud. Will you be trying in Halo in the future? Also keep us update on your cycle and pct bud

 

[Silent Bob]

good to here that everything is going good for on your EPI cycle bud. Will you be trying in Halo in the future? Also keep us update on your cycle and pct bud

I have talked to people who have done really well on Halo. My next cycle is going to be a cutting cycle. I was thinking Epi again since it was so dry and such a beast where strength is concerned... But I will look into halo, as I still have a while before I can do another cycle.

Pct is sill going good. I have maintained my strength and managed to increase on squats even after cycle. I have been hitting 455x 2 on my last set. That is a 25 lb increase from when I was on.

I have kept my calories high though, and have gained a few lbs of unwanted fat. But I will slowly work that off before the cutting cycle

 

[barnzy7]

I didnt suffer sides from Epi until 4-5 weeks after PCT, out of no where. That was after a PCT of Forma, Clomid and Forged PCT