PH Test E?

[Methodology]

When would be the best time to throw in a oral in say, a 12 week Test E cycle?

 

[hardpr]

no disrespect but if thats you in the pic you need to eat. that being said a lil dbol for the first 3-4 weeks is always a good one. it really depends on what oral your talking about and your aas history.

 

[gymrat827]

The first 4 wks. But as said above, u need to eat bigger. Ur lean as hell, which is great but the mass....


I would dial in the diet and research ph"s. there's epi and tren that are both new from ntbm.

 

[nickb86]

depends on the oral buddy 1st 4 weeks as a kicker is good or last 4-6 weeks with things like Anavar (var) etc

 

[Methodology]

That WAS me at 150lbs, about 25lbs heavier now and just about as lean, I do get mixed messages from a lot of forums, you need to be cut, but not too cut, and you need to bulk but not bulk too much. I had the impression that when your in the 'best' shape of your life, that's the best time to run a cycle, and the best way to put on healthy muscle is to be as cut as possible before bulking, so I optimize my fat burning while putting on solid muscle, my trainer taught me that, the only problem was that I couldn't eat the 3500 cals/200g+ protein everyday, which I can easily do now. I just came out of a cycle of Helladrol, and I'm pretty much in the shape I should be in, to go into another bulk, my only problem is that I want to do something that's strong, something that I will actually feel. Helladrol is a great strength gainer, I added a good 5-10lbs of muscle, and dropped a decent amount of BF, but it was like I was taking sugar pills that somehow maxed out my muscle and strength, without giving me the drive, something that was disappointing but reassuring at the same time, what more if I took something that had torque. I only ever ran Helladrol, it was awesome, but I really wanted more out of it.

"depends on the oral buddy 1st 4 weeks as a kicker is good or last 4-6 weeks with things like Anavar (var) etc"

I was thinking that mid cycle it would get pretty intense if the Test E was kicking in full effect around the time I started Dieseloban/Katanadrol, by the end of the cycle I would be exploding, but as a kicker I was thinking that I would get some nice gains and the Test E would just magnify it for those extra weeks, as it would just be kicking in. Hence why I asked, I would preferably just run Test E as is and optionally run something end cycle if I felt up for it.