Post cycle therapy (pct) Supplements.

[Drako]

PCT Supplements.

Hey guys been a while since I've posted on here. But when ever I've needed advice this or peoples opinions this always seems to be the best place.

Well I'll cut to the chase I see a lot of supplements on the shelves labled and claiming to be Pct but are any of them any good or even close to being as effective as tamoxifen?

Cheers for your time.

 

[D-Cal]

I`d stick with the bread and butter, IMO anything otc is garbage

 

[Drako]

Thats my thoughts however tamoxifen is getting harder to source. So looking for possible alternatives. I hate recessions lol.

 

[packers6211]

The only otc I've ever seen with ton of actual positive reviews is Pes Erase. However when running cycles I'll stick with Nolva, clomid, or Letro.

 

[Drako]

The only otc I've ever seen with ton of actual positive reviews is Pes Erase.

Cheers Al have a look into it, see what reviews its got.

 

[Stopstalking]

Erase is a great Aromatase inhibitor (AI) but I would run it along side a serm not in place of one.

 

[Zero V]

Erase is a great Aromatase inhibitor (AI) but I would run it along side a serm not in place of one.

This. I also always say Clomid over the others. And a healthy dose of DAA never hurts test production

 

[Yjyankee]

Exactly. Nolva or clomid, along w/ some DAA & you're all set.

 

[Drako]

Sadly Tamox/Nolva is difficult to get hold of recently so looking at other alternatives. Anyone have any experience on running Pes Erase and DAA only post cycle therapy (pct)?
Clearly nothing is as good as the real thing, js trying to broaden knowledge and options.

 

[BBE]

Check out the sponsor greatwhitepeptides on here bro. You should be able to find what you are looking for, for your rats. They Don't get anymore reliable than GWP.

Stack your serm with something like DAA, maybe formastanzol for estro control and you'll be good to go my man

 

[Drako]

Check out the sponsor greatwhitepeptides on here bro. You should be able to find what you are looking for, for your rats. They Don't get anymore reliable than GWP.

Stack your serm with something like DAA, maybe formastanzol for estro control and you'll be good to go my man

Cheers bud.

 

[MMA732]

NTBM carries DAA which stacks well with a SERM, also use Erase towards the end of your run with the SERM to prevent rebound.

 

[MuscleAddiction]

This was written in another forum by Nelson Montana...

MOST post cycle therapy (pct) PROCEDURES ARE BULLSHIT!!!

How can I say that? Well, because post cycle therapy (pct) is nothing but guesswork -- granted, there's some science and some very clever hypothesis involved, but it is not a medical treatment simply for the fact that it is not recognized as a medical condition. So what some of the pioneers of steroid use did was make some educated guesses as to what to use. But almost everything was considered a "good idea" 10 years ago, has been discredited.

The first "prevenative drug was Nolvadex. This was the brainchild of Dan Duchaine. He was brilliant in deducing that gyno was a form of a breast tumor and nolva was an ANTI BREAST TUMOR drug. But nolva comes with a host of side effects, including, lessened gains, lowered sex drive, bone loss,increased LDL and potential heart disease. And for what? Reducing the risk of gyno which can be prevented in the first place. Evn Dan admitted it was a shitty drug. So how did it become so popular for post cycle therapy (pct)? Because the internet is filled with idiots who are promoted as drug gurus. There isn't one shred of evidence that shows nolva to help restore HPTA. Not ONE. But old habits die fast.

Clomid? Don't get me started. It's an estrogen It does what estrogens do. If you recover using Clomid it's usually IN SPITE of it, not because of it. In some cases it acts as an estrogen antagonist -- if your estrogen is high -- and you're lucky enough to respond in that way. Feeling lucky? You don't have to. There's a better way.

I will let you read the rest here:

The Very BEST post cycle therapy (pct) for 2010 -- Right Here

Needto over there is a phenomenal resource as well as many others. That is to be debated a bit by both Needto and Nelson Montana...just keeping the conversation going here

 

[r1balla]

im about to log andromass soon. this is how my set up looks like

Cycle: Andromass + Anabeta

post cycle therapy (pct): Erase Pro, DAA (Lit Up on training days, TCF 1 non training days) + Toco 8

I think Toco 8 is really underrated. its a solid staple and can be very beneficial in post cycle therapy (pct) or even on cycle with the androseries products.

 

[Drako]

This was written in another forum by Nelson Montana...

MOST PCT PROCEDURES ARE BULLSHIT!!!

How can I say that? Well, because PCT is nothing but guesswork -- granted, there's some science and some very clever hypothesis involved, but it is not a medical treatment simply for the fact that it is not recognized as a medical condition. So what some of the pioneers of steroid use did was make some educated guesses as to what to use. But almost everything was considered a "good idea" 10 years ago, has been discredited.

The first "prevenative drug was Nolvadex. This was the brainchild of Dan Duchaine. He was brilliant in deducing that gyno was a form of a breast tumor and nolva was an ANTI BREAST TUMOR drug. But nolva comes with a host of side effects, including, lessened gains, lowered sex drive, bone loss,increased LDL and potential heart disease. And for what? Reducing the risk of gyno which can be prevented in the first place. Evn Dan admitted it was a shitty drug. So how did it become so popular for post cycle therapy (pct)? Because the internet is filled with idiots who are promoted as drug gurus. There isn't one shred of evidence that shows nolva to help restore HPTA. Not ONE. But old habits die fast.

Clomid? Don't get me started. It's an estrogen It does what estrogens do. If you recover using Clomid it's usually IN SPITE of it, not because of it. In some cases it acts as an estrogen antagonist -- if your estrogen is high -- and you're lucky enough to respond in that way. Feeling lucky? You don't have to. There's a better way.

I will let you read the rest here:

The Very BEST PCT for 2010 -- Right Here

Needto over there is a phenomenal resource as well as many others. That is to be debated a bit by both Needto and Nelson Montana...just keeping the conversation going here

Interesting read. Cheers for the link.

 

[packers6211]

Bro let me know how you like Erase Pro, I may have to get some soon.

im about to log andromass soon. this is how my set up looks like

Cycle: Andromass + Anabeta

PCT: Erase Pro, DAA (Lit Up on training days, TCF 1 non training days) + Toco 8

I think Toco 8 is really underrated. its a solid staple and can be very beneficial in PCT or even on cycle with the androseries products.

 

[gymrat827]

hcgenerate is a great t booster.....wayy better than DAA. i dont really like DAA much personally but others do so i wont knock it.

OTC supps do work, if you know what to get. half the shit out there is total garbage but there are plently of OTC companies worth purchasing from.


now i not going to say you dont want to stick to clomid, nolva, aromasin, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) but adding hcgenerate & erase would be great additions.


When i am in pct all i want to do is recover during those first 2 interesting wks when your body no longer is jacked up with all the extra hormones. ill take whatever will help me that is healthy.

just now i did


nolva
clomid
hcgenerate
erase
osta
creatine nitrate

things are going great.

 

[MMA732]

I like both HCGenerate and DAA with no real preference.

 

[MuscleAddiction]

im about to log andromass soon. this is how my set up looks like

Cycle: Andromass + Anabeta

PCT: Erase Pro, DAA (Lit Up on training days, TCF 1 non training days) + Toco 8

I think Toco 8 is really underrated. its a solid staple and can be very beneficial in PCT or even on cycle with the androseries products.

I have 2 bottles of ErasePro in my cabinet, was wondering how I will run it. I like the original Erase, and the ability to break it up and take it throughout the day, so still wondering how a once in the morning high dose is more beneficial, but being curious I went ahead and grabbed some, mostly for the Anabeta deal I got ...good luck bro!

 

[packers6211]

Original Erase works wonders, and PES imo doesn't make useless products. I'll have to get some Erase Pro off Orbit soon.