Pro hormone/anabolic steroid stacks... Advice needed

[Bmcbball161569]

Would I have good results using a pro hormone with an anabolic such as test e or Sust250?

 

[Onk]

No

 

[Bmcbball161569]

Why do you say no?

 

[Onk]

Your post wasn't detailed at all so I gave you the best answer I could for the limited information I had available.

If you're really keen on using PH with AAS then you'll need to wow people with your knowledge.
As you chose sust I'm hoping you've done several cycles before with longer esters?
What are your stats? Age/height/bf/experience lifting/diet?
What cycles have you done?

What cycle would you do with sust? Cycle + AI + PCT?


Aside: You posted this in general chat rather than the Anabolic forums.

 

[Bmcbball161569]

My apologies about posting this in the general chat... I've done a few pro hormone cycles in the past with relatively decent results. I have also done a cycle with test c with not that great of results. I mentioned Sust250 because that is all I can get at the moment. I haven't really got access to any good sources so I'm limited to what I am able to do. I'm 27. 5' 8 142 lbs and approximately 13-16% body fat.

 

[Bmcbball161569]

I have been training off and on since high school. I don't follow a strict diet but I eat healthy. I make sure I get a balance of a lot of protein along with an adequate intake of carbohydrates (good carbs).

 

[Onk]

Ok your weight just flagged a potential area for improvement from me. You're at 142 lbs which is very very light for what you say as 13-16% bf. This means you don't have much muscle mass as a starting point, for steroids to give you much gains. You'd be better sorting your diet out, hitting a better weight level and seeing what that does for your gains first. Until then, all AAS is to you is a magic pill.

Can you list your diet please?
As really, you're far too light.

 

[Bmcbball161569]

For the past couple months I've been drinking 3 protein shakes a day... In the am I eat eggs and and a protein bar with some rice.. For lunch I'll eat a salad with grilled chicken and low fatddressing... For dinner I'll eat either chicken steak or fish with two sides of vegetables and whole wheat pasta (or rice)... For snacksthroughout the day I eat almonds

 

[Onk]

snacks aren't a good option, you want to be having meals.
Also, that diet seems very open where it should be strict. I'll give you an example of what a 4000 calorie diet looks like

4000 calories
350g carbs
220g protein
70g fats

meal 1
40g protein shake
250g oats

meal 2
250g chicken/turkey
250g veggies
1 tblsp peanut butter

meal 3
same as 2

meal 4
same as 2

meal 5 post workout
40g protein shake
1 banana
1 tablespoon peanut butter
2 slices wholemeal bread

meal 6
250g steak
250g veggies

this is what your diet should look like.

The diet you posted looks small and looks to be the reason that you're too skinny. You have a reliance on protein shakes and bars, which also isn't good.

Head over to the Diet forums and post your diet like I did above and we'll help you out.

 

[Bmcbball161569]

Thanks for the nutrition guide man! That will definitely help me out a lot. My main goal is not to become massively bulky but to gain hard lean muscle mass while having that shredded look (especially in the abdomen area). Will the nutrition plan you posted help me towards these goals?

 

[Cheph]

Not cheap either to constantly be on those types of diets. My wife and i spend 200-300 a week on food

 

[Bmcbball161569]

I realize that having an "on point" diet is essential in muscle building and can be expensive. I am willing to spend extra money on food in order to keep my diet in check. I will do whatever I need to in order to achieve the fitness level/physique that I desire.

 

[Onk]

Thanks for the nutrition guide man! That will definitely help me out a lot. My main goal is not to become massively bulky but to gain hard lean muscle mass while having that shredded look (especially in the abdomen area). Will the nutrition plan you posted help me towards these goals?

I think I'm not too bulky and do physique competitions. My avatar is a backstage pic at my last comp where I'm at 5% bf and 163 pounds. Normally am 9-10% bf and 187 lbs.
You will be getting enough nutrients so that you can gain what you wish to, but not too much crap in there that you put on fat.
One of the most overlooked things is that when you eat a lot of healthy foods, you don't stray from your diet too much. Where short and fast (hard) diets aren't long term and lead you towards re-feeding and cheating.