Really Bad News...!

[BIONABOL]

Yesterday I received I call from a good friend's of mine.Since January this guy tell me that he have high liver values,but I said to him this will be only temporanerly,unfortunately he did'nt tell me what he've taken.He run,for about 3 cycles juices+Accutane without having tests,cause after 3months of Accutane usage all his values were ok .h has run 1)Deca-Durabolin at about 400mgEW,Dianabol 20mgED for a 7weeks.2)Testo 250-750mgED,Winstrol depot 150-300mg(I don't for how long but I think 3+3 weeks,since he think win should be used on/of trough a cycle)Tren40mgED(also this on/of trough the cycle)3)Deca(400mgEW)Testo(750mgEW)Dianabol(from 6 to 10tabs):HORRIBLE!!!!.He has had his first check in the middle of January,about a month and half after finished the last cycle.and about 15days of stopping taking Accutan.His results were:
AST:54
ALT:154
GGT:54.
After then he taked another test one months later(he shoot some glutatione and 2amps Dynabol in this months).
AST:64
ALT:181
GGT:54.
After some days he also have epatitus markers checked,all is fine.After another month the doc checked him
birilubin levels and they were in the normal range and GGT in 15 days come back also in the normal range:44.He has also an abdominal ecography,the docs tell him he was fine,his liver was only very,very little bigger then normal,but yesterday He call me,and after telling me and send my an e-mail with all this results He also said that his test have worsened.Birilubin levels,who previously were normal raised at about 2,50(I do'nt remember exactly but sure his level is double then normal)GGT who was in the last test normal raised to 66.AST:54.ALT:172.ONLY alckaline phosphatasi is in the normal range.Yesterday I spend all my time to find the best epatologist for him.At first I thiked,I can't undersand why he has run this risks,but then I realised that his sentimental life is very bad,also is family is a destoyed family,soFund in BB his way and maybe his life.I'm going to help him making every effort possible.Since his liver is suffering he should drop BB diet.I'm also thinking positive to give him the right support.This is onother story for all of you do'nt having regular blood work.LMK what do you think?Every good idea would be help him,cause I'm going to take him on this bord to let see what others BB think about.
TAHNX FOR THE TIME.

 

[massive g]

Get him on some milk thistle, R-ALA, and some Liv-52 to detox his liver....I don't know why guys self medicate with accutaine while on roids it is ten times harder on the liver...grin and bear it a few zits are not worth liver damage...
Also I just read an article that said coffee helped reduce 80% of the damage in cirrohsis of the liver....

 

[buffdoc]

If he stays off the orals and the Accutane, I'd expect his GGT to normalize, bilirubin also.
If it does, he could continue to cycle w/ injectables, and watch his labs. He needs to use topicals for his acne and LAY OFF the Accutane. He can use Retin-A, clindamycin gel, Benzaclin (clinda plus benzoyl peroxide, and/or Differin gel.

 

[Paulie R]

Is Liv-52 over the counter or script?

 

[JohnnyB]

Is Liv-52 over the counter or script?

OTC

JohnnyB

 

[house1]

www.liversupport.com

 

[Annonamous1]

Also I just read an article that said coffee helped reduce 80% of the damage in cirrohsis of the liver....

Thats interesting. Where did you read that?

 

[BIONABOL]

OK,after we've spoken about,with some expert He need to take some powerful liver detox:glutatione and another oral meds witch I do'nt remember exactly.However He's going to go trough one of the best epatologist(as I advised him).He need to detox is liver!His age,I think,has made a huge difference in is health,if someone older have done what he has,probably would have destroed his health.He only 20years old.Just a little younger then me!.

 

[RoadHouse]

Anavar has actually been used in Alcohol related hepatitis:

A study of oral nutritional support with oxandrolone in malnourished patients with alcoholic hepatitis: results of a Department of Veterans Affairs cooperative study.

Mendenhall CL, Moritz TE, Roselle GA, Morgan TR, Nemchausky BA, Tamburro CH, Schiff ER, McClain CJ, Marsano LS, Allen JI, et al.

Department of Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Cincinnati, Ohio 45220.

A Veterans Affairs cooperative study involving 273 male patients was performed to evaluate efficacy of oxandrolone in combination with an enteral food supplement in severe alcoholic hepatitis. All patients had some degree of protein calorie malnutrition. On an intention-to-treat basis, only minimal changes in mortality were observed. However, in patients with moderate malnutrition mortality on active treatment at 1 mo was 9.4% compared with 20.9% in patients receiving placebo. This beneficial effect was maintained so that after 6 mo on active treatment 79.7% of patients were still alive, compared with 62.7% of placebo-treated patients (p = 0.037). Improvements in both the severity of the liver injury (p = 0.03) and malnutrition (p = 0.05) also occurred. No significant improvement was observed with severe malnutrition. To better determine the effect on therapeutic efficacy, we compared results with those from a nearly identical population (cooperative study 119) treated with oxandrolone but not given the food supplement. Patients were stratified according to their caloric intake (greater than 2,500 kcal/day was considered adequate to supply energy needs and promote anabolism). For patients with moderate malnutrition and adequate caloric intake, oxandrolone treatment reduced 6-mo mortality (4% active treatment vs. 28% placebo [p = 0.002]). For patients with moderate malnutrition and inadequate calorie intake, oxandrolone had no effect on mortality (30% active treatment vs. 33% placebo). In cases of severe malnutrition, oxandrolone had no effect on survival. However, adequate caloric intake was associated with 19% mortality, whereas patients with inadequate intake exhibited 51% mortality (p = 0.0001). These results indicate that nutritional status should be evaluated in patients with alcoholic hepatitis. When malnutrition is present, vigorous nutrition therapy should be provided, and in patients with moderate malnutrition oxandrolone should be added to the regimen.

Publication Types:
Clinical Trial
Controlled Clinical Trial
Multicenter Study
Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 8477961 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

[RoadHouse]

Short-term and long-term survival in patients with alcoholic hepatitis treated with oxandrolone and prednisolone.

Mendenhall CL, Anderson S, Garcia-Pont P, Goldberg S, Kiernan T, Seeff LB, Sorrell M, Tamburro C, Weesner R, Zetterman R, et al.

A cooperative study was conducted to determine the efficacy of 30 days of treatment with either a glucocorticosteroid (prednisolone) or an anabolic steroid (oxandrolone) in moderate or severe alcoholic hepatitis. One hundred thirty-two patients with moderate disease and 131 with severe disease were randomly assigned to one of three treatments: prednisolone, oxandrolone, or placebo. During the 30 days, mortality in the groups receiving steroid therapy was not significantly different from mortality in the placebo group. Thirteen per cent of the moderately ill patients and 29 per cent of the severely ill patients died. Although neither steroid improved short-term survival, oxandrolone therapy was associated with a beneficial effect on long-term survival. This was especially true in patients with moderate disease: among those who survived for one or two months after the start of treatment the conditional six-month death rate was 3.5 per cent after oxandrolone and 19 to 20 per cent after placebo (P = 0.02). No consistent long-term effect was associated with prednisolone therapy.

 

[kube]

bionabol
hey bro, dont laugh at this but your bro can seriously speed up his recovery by not eating meat for a while and also by wrapping his stomach area from the diaphram to the groin and over the kidney area with wet clay while he sleeps. email me if you want details. laugh your ass off if you dont believe me. later.