KCinToronto
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I want to share my experience with S4 as I have been taking it for almost a month, with a brief stop. (mentioned below)
I finished a Test/Mast/Anavar/HCG cycle in early September, last shot on September 5th. I did 4 weeks PCT Clomid/Nolva and started SARMS S4 after PCT was complete. SARMS started on October 14. The photo in my profile/avatar is early September end of TEST cycle. I was 200 lbs, 5'9" and I am 50 years old.
Some of my opinions are likely influenced by the fact that coming off cycle, I've been losing size and strength. I always do, and was hoping by adding HCG to cycle I may keep more. Also hoped by doing SARMS as a bridge, I could maintain more strength. (Well this has not been the case.)
I've been taking exactly 50mg/day, split up twice a day. Not really pre-workout, just morning and night when I can get to it. My plan was to take it for 60 days straight. (Plans change. LOL) I prefer to take it with a bit of orange juice as the taste of this stuff is just NASTY.
I started on I'll try to lay out my results by category of what I experienced, or what I read I should experience.
NOTE: During this time, my eating was the same as always. My training was also the same as usual. All body parts hit hard once a week, split into 4workouts a week. Medium cardio 3X a week, 30 minutes each and somewhat competitive hockey 2 times a week. During PCT and up to now I have also been taking DAA and Creatine Mono. I was hoping Creatine would help keep weight as I normally bloat, but I have not.
CUTTING
For the first 2 weeks I was using S4 I dropped weight dramatically. I was 195 lbs after my PCT. I dropped to 190 lbs in 2 weeks. Abs were looking amazing but everything else felt....small. This is an amazing product for cutting in my opinion. I've always felt I had a layer of fat on my sides that I could never get rid of, well this stuff seems to have helped a lot. It's almost like my skin on me feels thinner. Well after 16 days, I had a stomach flu or something. I don't think it was caused by the SARMS but I will know soon as I have restarted. I had to stop for 5 days, could not eat much and damn I went down to 185 lbs. I have not been 185 for almost 2years. It's not a weight I like, I feel really small.
VISION SIDES
I've heard it said that this is no joke, and believe me, it really is no joke. At the end of 16 days, the yellow tint was brutal. I was driving home from hockey on a Sunday night and there was a car behind me. All I could see was his lights seemed really bright with a yellow glow around it. Well I was trying to focus on the road, and ignored my speed and that damn car turned out to be a cop. He was really cool and did not even ticket me, just a warning. Normally I can see the car itself even with the lights on, but in this case the lights overwhelmed everything. I also had moments of turning off a light and being blind in a dark room, totally blind. It would last about 10 seconds before I could make anything out. The yellow tint while watching high def. television is a pain too, as I love my TV. When I got sick, mentioned above, I stopped the SARMS for 5 days and my vision returned to normal after 3-4 days. I've been back on SARMS for 9 days now. The yellow tint is starting again.
STRENGTH GAIN
I have to tell you my experience on this may be biased, but I have experienced no strength gain at all. I've had strength loss, due to my weight loss, and I am hoping to get some back. It's possible it has not had enough time to help with gains. Time will tell. To give you an idea, before starting steroids, I trained for 18 years very consistently. The most I could bench, pre steroids, was 275 for 5 clean reps. During any of my 3real cycles, my bench would go up to 315 lbs for 5 clean reps, and 1 rep max of 365 lbs. This week I was only able to do 275 for 5 reps, and needed assistance on rep 5. Hate to say it, but with everything I have tried, I keep going back to where I was 2 years ago. Which may be good since I am 50 years old. LOL
ENERGY/ FEELING of WELL BEING
This seems to come and go, some days I feel amazing, other days I feel like getting through 30 minutes of cardio is going to kill me. So I for me it has caused a more inconsistent energy rather than more energy.
DREAMS
I believe I read one blog where the person experienced more vivid dreams. Well it certainly has been the case for me too. It is to the point where I wake up, realize a dream I was in, go to the bathroom, go back to sleep and the same dream continues. It's pretty wild as I never remember my dreams. Well I do lately. I have to be careful mind you, some of them have been "fun" dreams and are not including the wife, so I am getting nervous what I may say in my sleep. LOL.
JOINT PAIN
I've read it helps people with joint pain. This is also a tough one as I normally have chronic pain in my shoulders that seems to switch sides as I favor one or the other. Months ago I started taking Animal Flex and I have to say it is the only thing that has really helped. After a few months though, it was not working as well. (Likely around the time I was benching 365 lbs in mid-cycle.) But since starting SARMS, I have one day of shoulder pain after chest day, I ice it that night, and it heals up pretty fast. So I do believe it is helping here.
LIBIDO
Sorry guys, I'm hoping I have not been on it long enough, but nothing here. During PCT libido was really good, but since stopping and starting SARMS, it has almost been non existent. Even porn is somewhat boring me. It has happened before after PCT, almost a post cycle depression, so it is not the SARMS, but just mentioning SARMS is not helping in this area so far.
Conclusion thus far:
For me, SARMS S4 is a great cutting tool. I may have to go to 5 days on 2 days off as many people mention for the vision sides. I've read that will likely hinder any gains too. I have no increase in size, hardness or strength thus far. It does seem to help with joint pain. The vision sides are something you need to decide if worth it. So far, it is not for me. I guess if you don't do much at night, and have no reason to drive when dark it would be better.
One more thing:
I purchased mine off a reputable sponsor on here and paid a lot. I say a lot because I recently saw another sponsor that has it for much cheaper. No idea what the quality is of the cheaper one or if it comes to Canada. I prefer not to mention names as I am not sure what I can say. if you want more information please PM me. Another thing is I bought 2 bottles of 30ml @ 50mg/ml and the first bottle only had 25 ml in it. I measured the second bottle which I just started and it has the 30 ml. (I would like to think I could have measured my dose wrong, but not likely I was that far off.)
Next bridge I'll likely look into a SARMS stack I believe was S4, S1 and Ostarine. (I may be mistaken here) If anyone has any input on that cycle please let me know your thoughts.
Also any opinions what I may be doing wrong, advice or questions are always welcome.
I will update this during the next 30 days, but as I can, not every day. LOL
KC
I finished a Test/Mast/Anavar/HCG cycle in early September, last shot on September 5th. I did 4 weeks PCT Clomid/Nolva and started SARMS S4 after PCT was complete. SARMS started on October 14. The photo in my profile/avatar is early September end of TEST cycle. I was 200 lbs, 5'9" and I am 50 years old.
Some of my opinions are likely influenced by the fact that coming off cycle, I've been losing size and strength. I always do, and was hoping by adding HCG to cycle I may keep more. Also hoped by doing SARMS as a bridge, I could maintain more strength. (Well this has not been the case.)
I've been taking exactly 50mg/day, split up twice a day. Not really pre-workout, just morning and night when I can get to it. My plan was to take it for 60 days straight. (Plans change. LOL) I prefer to take it with a bit of orange juice as the taste of this stuff is just NASTY.
I started on I'll try to lay out my results by category of what I experienced, or what I read I should experience.
NOTE: During this time, my eating was the same as always. My training was also the same as usual. All body parts hit hard once a week, split into 4workouts a week. Medium cardio 3X a week, 30 minutes each and somewhat competitive hockey 2 times a week. During PCT and up to now I have also been taking DAA and Creatine Mono. I was hoping Creatine would help keep weight as I normally bloat, but I have not.
CUTTING
For the first 2 weeks I was using S4 I dropped weight dramatically. I was 195 lbs after my PCT. I dropped to 190 lbs in 2 weeks. Abs were looking amazing but everything else felt....small. This is an amazing product for cutting in my opinion. I've always felt I had a layer of fat on my sides that I could never get rid of, well this stuff seems to have helped a lot. It's almost like my skin on me feels thinner. Well after 16 days, I had a stomach flu or something. I don't think it was caused by the SARMS but I will know soon as I have restarted. I had to stop for 5 days, could not eat much and damn I went down to 185 lbs. I have not been 185 for almost 2years. It's not a weight I like, I feel really small.
VISION SIDES
I've heard it said that this is no joke, and believe me, it really is no joke. At the end of 16 days, the yellow tint was brutal. I was driving home from hockey on a Sunday night and there was a car behind me. All I could see was his lights seemed really bright with a yellow glow around it. Well I was trying to focus on the road, and ignored my speed and that damn car turned out to be a cop. He was really cool and did not even ticket me, just a warning. Normally I can see the car itself even with the lights on, but in this case the lights overwhelmed everything. I also had moments of turning off a light and being blind in a dark room, totally blind. It would last about 10 seconds before I could make anything out. The yellow tint while watching high def. television is a pain too, as I love my TV. When I got sick, mentioned above, I stopped the SARMS for 5 days and my vision returned to normal after 3-4 days. I've been back on SARMS for 9 days now. The yellow tint is starting again.
STRENGTH GAIN
I have to tell you my experience on this may be biased, but I have experienced no strength gain at all. I've had strength loss, due to my weight loss, and I am hoping to get some back. It's possible it has not had enough time to help with gains. Time will tell. To give you an idea, before starting steroids, I trained for 18 years very consistently. The most I could bench, pre steroids, was 275 for 5 clean reps. During any of my 3real cycles, my bench would go up to 315 lbs for 5 clean reps, and 1 rep max of 365 lbs. This week I was only able to do 275 for 5 reps, and needed assistance on rep 5. Hate to say it, but with everything I have tried, I keep going back to where I was 2 years ago. Which may be good since I am 50 years old. LOL
ENERGY/ FEELING of WELL BEING
This seems to come and go, some days I feel amazing, other days I feel like getting through 30 minutes of cardio is going to kill me. So I for me it has caused a more inconsistent energy rather than more energy.
DREAMS
I believe I read one blog where the person experienced more vivid dreams. Well it certainly has been the case for me too. It is to the point where I wake up, realize a dream I was in, go to the bathroom, go back to sleep and the same dream continues. It's pretty wild as I never remember my dreams. Well I do lately. I have to be careful mind you, some of them have been "fun" dreams and are not including the wife, so I am getting nervous what I may say in my sleep. LOL.
JOINT PAIN
I've read it helps people with joint pain. This is also a tough one as I normally have chronic pain in my shoulders that seems to switch sides as I favor one or the other. Months ago I started taking Animal Flex and I have to say it is the only thing that has really helped. After a few months though, it was not working as well. (Likely around the time I was benching 365 lbs in mid-cycle.) But since starting SARMS, I have one day of shoulder pain after chest day, I ice it that night, and it heals up pretty fast. So I do believe it is helping here.
LIBIDO
Sorry guys, I'm hoping I have not been on it long enough, but nothing here. During PCT libido was really good, but since stopping and starting SARMS, it has almost been non existent. Even porn is somewhat boring me. It has happened before after PCT, almost a post cycle depression, so it is not the SARMS, but just mentioning SARMS is not helping in this area so far.
Conclusion thus far:
For me, SARMS S4 is a great cutting tool. I may have to go to 5 days on 2 days off as many people mention for the vision sides. I've read that will likely hinder any gains too. I have no increase in size, hardness or strength thus far. It does seem to help with joint pain. The vision sides are something you need to decide if worth it. So far, it is not for me. I guess if you don't do much at night, and have no reason to drive when dark it would be better.
One more thing:
I purchased mine off a reputable sponsor on here and paid a lot. I say a lot because I recently saw another sponsor that has it for much cheaper. No idea what the quality is of the cheaper one or if it comes to Canada. I prefer not to mention names as I am not sure what I can say. if you want more information please PM me. Another thing is I bought 2 bottles of 30ml @ 50mg/ml and the first bottle only had 25 ml in it. I measured the second bottle which I just started and it has the 30 ml. (I would like to think I could have measured my dose wrong, but not likely I was that far off.)
Next bridge I'll likely look into a SARMS stack I believe was S4, S1 and Ostarine. (I may be mistaken here) If anyone has any input on that cycle please let me know your thoughts.
Also any opinions what I may be doing wrong, advice or questions are always welcome.
I will update this during the next 30 days, but as I can, not every day. LOL
KC
