Second cycle/first tren cycle advice?

[Kegblock]

My first cycle was just 500 mg of test cypionate a week for 12 weeks. This time I'm thinking about doing...

Weeks 1-12
500 mg test e
400 mg tren e

Weeks 13-16
500 mg test e

250 iu HCG twice a week throughout the cycle.

My main question is, is this too much tren for my first tren cycle? Should I possibly go down to 10 weeks of tren?

 

[Megatron28]

Age, height, weight, body fat % and years training?

No AI? What about a Dopamine Agonist? What about PCT?

You don't have any experience with 19-nor's. Running Tren without that experience is not a good idea. Deca would be much better.

Tren Ace is also a better choice than Tren E your first time. If you can't handle the sides and have to bail it will clear much faster. But don't take this to mean that I am recommending Tren on your 2nd cycle.

 

[Kegblock]

I was going to run .5 mg arimidex eod, pct was going to be standard clomid/nolva for four weeks.

Age-25
Height-5'9"
Weight-187 lbs
9% bf
Training since I was 14 (taken about two years off total since then).

Dopamine agonist is something I'm unfamiliar with. I know what the neuro transmitter dopamine does, and I was told that tren has some mental side effects. I'm guessing it has something to do with that?

Edit: I know tren ace is better for a first tren cycle as it will be out of the system much faster; truthfully, I just don't know if I'm at a point where I want to pin every day.

 

[Megatron28]

I was going to run .5 mg arimidex eod, pct was going to be standard clomid/nolva for four weeks.

Age-25
Height-5'9"
Weight-187 lbs
9% bf
Training since I was 14 (taken about two years off total since then).

Dopamine agonist is something I'm unfamiliar with. I know what the neuro transmitter dopamine does, and I was told that tren has some mental side effects. I'm guessing it has something to do with that?

Edit: I know tren ace is better for a first tren cycle as it will be out of the system much faster; truthfully, I just don't know if I'm at a point where I want to pin every day.

You can pin Tren Ace EOD. Man up.

19-nors can cause your prolactin levels to increase substantially. This in turn can cause you to lactate from your breasts, have erectile dysfunction and lead to gynecomastia. Dopamine Agonists stop this from happening as Dopamine is an "anti-prolactin". You should at a minimum have Caber or Prami on hand but I would recommend running them your full cycle.

 

[Private_Joker0122]

Ignore Megatron he is being a prickto me Iin a post I just posted awhile ago I think tren e at 400 mg per week is fine I would probably do that if i didnt like injecting myself but honestly it doesn't me I am actually looking forward to injecting every other day so yes your cycle is fine.

 

[halfwit]

Ignore Megatron he is being a prickto me Iin a post I just posted awhile ago I think tren e at 400 mg per week is fine I would probably do that if i didnt like injecting myself but honestly it doesn't me I am actually looking forward to injecting every other day so yes your cycle is fine.

Yeah! Ignore that decepticon guy that knows stuff! It's way more fun to run around with a limp dick in your hand and wondering why everyone wants a piece of you (or do they..?).

Second cycle is when you start building your experience base OP. You don't want to get your driver's license on Monday with a Honda Accord, then go hop into a Maclaren F1 on Tuesday. I'd either dabble with nandrolone to get some experience with progestins (19-nors), or perhaps try an oral kicker.

Tren is something you want to build up to, so when the shit hits the fan - you're cool as a cucumber, not a hot mess.


Errrrrrrrrr, yeah broseph - forget that smart guy, real bros do that shit LIVE! #YOLO #ZYZZFOREVER #FUCKYOURSELFUPFORFUN

LOL.

 

[AgeisjustaNumber]

Tren - from experience - will mess with your mind...and that alone is scary. If you aren't well grounded in reality, don't dive into the tren pool without understanding the psychological parts.... one other point, my prolactin levels got above the upper level and it took some effort to lower it ( with prami, just like Megatron is saying), but if you don't suffer to many side effects from 19-nors, you should be ok.... but you've been given good advice ... be open to what is being said.

 

[Private_Joker0122]

He's going to do what he wants to do it's his body and if he wants to do tren e then let him there's nothing wrong with doing tren if there was then there would be a problem with taking any anabolic steroids so cool it and act like adults here

 

[tbonexl]

If you don't want to pin every day or eod, your not ready for tren. Nuff said...

 

[tbonexl]

He's going to do what he wants to do it's his body and if he wants to do tren e then let him there's nothing wrong with doing tren if there was then there would be a problem with taking any anabolic steroids so cool it and act like adults here

Nobody here can stop anybody from doing anything. Doesn't mean they will endorse it just cuz. That wouldn't be very adult like...

 

[Kegblock]

Maybe sticking to something on the simple side like Deca is the route I should go. I was planning on doing a 16 week cycle, and I was only going to tren for the first 12 weeks, is it typical to use deca for the entire duration of a 16 week cycle? Also, I'm guessing the same dosage (400mg/week) is decent enough substitute for tren, or should I increase the dosage?

 

[halfwit]

Maybe sticking to something on the simple side like Deca is the route I should go. I was planning on doing a 16 week cycle, and I was only going to tren for the first 12 weeks, is it typical to use deca for the entire duration of a 16 week cycle? Also, I'm guessing the same dosage (400mg/week) is decent enough substitute for tren, or should I increase the dosage?

I'd go 14 with the deca, and finish out the last two with test. 400mg is a decent dose that should provide gains if everything else is in order. Just be sure to understand the relationship between estradiol and prolactin, as that's what will ruin your day. A dopamine agonist on hand is great insurance in case you guess wrong on AI dosing.

 

[Kegblock]

You can pin Tren Ace EOD. Man up.

19-nors can cause your prolactin levels to increase substantially. This in turn can cause you to lactate from your breasts, have erectile dysfunction and lead to gynecomastia. Dopamine Agonists stop this from happening as Dopamine is an "anti-prolactin". You should at a minimum have Caber or Prami on hand but I would recommend running them your full cycle.

I ordered some caber; does taking in .5 mg twice a week (going to take it when I inject hcg) sound good? I've heard taking .5 mg e3d is common, but I figure the scheduling would be stupidly simple if I just took it with HCG.

 

[Megatron28]

I ordered some caber; does taking in .5 mg twice a week (going to take it when I inject hcg) sound good? I've heard taking .5 mg e3d is common, but I figure the scheduling would be stupidly simple if I just took it with HCG.

I take .50mg twice a week.