Serm and/or AI during cycle

[freedomforall]

I've read the various posts on running post cycle therapy (pct) with HCG, Nolvadex, Clomid, and AI's but im still trying to figure out what is going to be best for me. I'm 6"4 235 and have been working out since I was 16. Im 22 now. I've been accused of using steroids since I was 18 by pretty much everyone. I used to be opposed to AAS but after doing alot of studying, and web browsing I decided if done correctly I could minimize my risk/gain ratio. The biggest risk now in my view being legal trouble. I plan on taking Dbol@20mg a day for weeks 1-4 alongside Test E @500mg a week for weeks 1-10. My current anti-e plan is to take Aromasin 12.5 mg ED throughout cycle until I begin post cycle therapy (pct) at the end with HCG, clomid, and nolva. Should I be taking Nolva throughout my cycle too? Also I read people saying Aromasin will dry up your joints. I kinda want the extra padding from water retention in my joints. I was wondering if anyone could give me ideas on how much nolva and or clomid to take throughout my cycle? Should I ditch the Aromasin idea and just keep it at hand in case of gyno? Thanks for any suggestions. This will be my first cycle (from what I read not likely my last), and I want to make sure I do everything possible to avoid the negative effects of a bad estrogen to testosterone ratio (mainly boobies)

 

[freedomforall]

I'm a new member here, and would really like some advice on what anti-e or anti-a I should run throughout the cycle and amounts. Also I was considering taking IGF-1@ 40mcg a day for 30 days at the beginning of my cycle so the AAS would be able to help the new cells created grow tremendously. Also I will be purchasing a pair of K-Swiss Blades by Kenny Powers to wear to all of my workouts from now on. Why? Because it's hilarious.

 

[Jack Tors]

I'm a new member here, and would really like some advice on what anti-e or anti-a I should run throughout the cycle and amounts. Also I was considering taking IGF-1@ 40mcg a day for 30 days at the beginning of my cycle so the AAS would be able to help the new cells created grow tremendously. Also I will be purchasing a pair of K-Swiss Blades by Kenny Powers to wear to all of my workouts from now on. Why? Because it's hilarious.

haha
I'd use arimidex .5 eod or e3d - every other day or 3 day

 

[freedomforall]

haha
I'd use arimidex .5 eod or e3d - every other day or 3 day

Just use Arimidex throughout the cycle and then use nolva and clomid for pct? I'm having trouble finding a place to get Ari from that I trust, and that also will supply the AAS. Usually the places that have Ari for reasonable prices don't have the other, and the places that have the other are waaaayyy to high on the Ari. I really wanna get everything in one bundle, that way once I pick it up I can completely relax my sphincter. I ordered a small amount of just a few things from an Asian supplier who is well known for being legit and also extremely high on everything they sell. They sent it in two seperate packages, and I nearly stroked out when one of them was held up on the border for 3 days. I had to sign for it since it was registered mail, and I didn't like that at all. I'm never ordering international again. I'm looking at 3 options right now that appear legit for domestic gear, but none of them sell everything I want. I have everything from the first order, but it's not nearly enough for a cycle. I was just testing the USPS . Won't be getting the next batch sent to the same address though as I fear that delay at the border could have been my package being inspected, and me being put on a watch list from then on.

 

[donjob]

i've heard domestic is usually just scammers, international could be as well though. This is my first cycle as well, but just my .02 cents, what i've heard. my first package came pretty quick, the second took longer. says it's in new york the whole time, even though it couldn't have been. maybe that's why you thought it was hung up? i wouldn't worry bro

 

[freedomforall]

i've heard domestic is usually just scammers, international could be as well though. This is my first cycle as well, but just my .02 cents, what i've heard. my first package came pretty quick, the second took longer. says it's in new york the whole time, even though it couldn't have been. maybe that's why you thought it was hung up? i wouldn't worry bro

What I got from overseas is def. high quality name brand gear, but if I were to get everything I want for a cycle it would be well over a grand where as I can get everything I want domestic from reviewed sources for around 300-350 and not have to worry about customs at the border. Granted alot of the domestic guys are just ordering bags of powder and cooking the gear up in their kitchen and putting it in capsules instead of pressed pills. I'm ok with that as long as other people have been using it without problems. I'm also trying to stay under 50 grams so as not to be commiting a felony in my state. I'm hoping a 10ml vial of Test-e @250mg/ml is only counted as being 2.5 grams of AAS towards the 50 gram limit before becoming a felony. That way I can get all my Dbol, and test-e in one package, and not have to worry about being a felon if it gets caught in transit. If they are weighing the vials and all I should still be under 50 grams with an order of just two vials of Test and 50 dbol 20mg along with anti-e's. I wonder if the anti-e's would be counted as being illegal?

 

[freedomforall]

Helllpppp meeeeeeeeeee! I wanna keep my boys intact!

 

[josh223]

Hcg will not really be needed for first cycle, especially since its only 10 weeks. though you can still run it if you feel you need to or are paranoid about it. Keep on hand.

Adex should be fine at .25mg eod and if need more bump to .5
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Aromasin 12.5mg Every 2-3 days


you may find you are not prone to gyno, not saying you will but its possible. Anti E's have their share of side effects too, keep in mind

 

[josh223]

clomid pct is sufficient. Wait at least 2 weeks after last shot then start at 100mg a day for first week. Then the next 3 weeks of clomid 50mg per day.

take clomid at the exact same time each day.

 

[donjob]

i've decided not to run Aromatase inhibitor (AI). i don't even have it on hand, newb mistake i know i'll hear but i'm taking the risk. like you said anti e has their sides as well and the less crap i'm putting in my body the better. i am however running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the last half of my cycle.... i am paranoid about that!

 

[Slickspurs]

Would you have gear left over at 500mg a week for 10 weeks? Usually from my experience normal size is 10ml at 300mg/ml That would allow for 12 weeks at 500 or use 600mg per week at 300x2.