Should you take a break from protein shakes?

[TRUCKBROKE]

I drink 3 shakes a day Syntha 6. I`ve been at it for while and was wondering if after so long you should take break from them or not? I eat protein also but use the shakes to make up for what I don`t eat. Sat and Sun are the only two days I`m usually not downing one. Also it won`t be long and I`m gonna be coming off my cycle and want to cut a little bit for spring. Do the shakes make hurt or help?

 

[3J]

shakes will do 1/8th of what real food does for your body and metabolism..

the only time u should be having that shake is pwo...

i follow a very strict whole foods approach

 

[TRUCKBROKE]

Damn. 1/8th. That sucks. I try to keep a good diet. I know enough about the diet part of lifting to lose some fat and weight. Gain some strength and size in the process. But I`m at the hard part now. I`ve started to get the size and I`m in the 14-15% bf stage but, now I`m having to try and educate myself on what I should be eating to get into the 9-10% range. Like whats a good snack, can you have a cheat day, etc etc

 

[3J]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/diet-forum/153271-free-diet-advice-3j.html

if your serious about dropping to 9-10%, read through everything and post what i ask for...

 

[TRUCKBROKE]

I`m very serious. I`ll read it and post in a bit.

 

[3J]

ill be waiting

 

[Roidrage81]

too much protein powder makes me bloated. i stick to one shake after w/o and a scoop of protein in with my oatmeal in the morning and a scoop with my cottage cheese at night. no more, no less.

 

[TRUCKBROKE]

Ok here is my numbers:

Age 29
weight 202
height 5' 10"
BF 15%
Goal is 9-10%
BMR 2054
TDEE 2824

Workout schedule:

Monday: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Tuesday: Legs
Wednsday: Biceps, Back
Thursday: Repeat Monday
Friday: Repeat Wednsday
Sat and Sun: Rest
At least two days a week I run 30 minutes on the Treadmill or Iliptical.

Meals:

My diet runs about the same all the time.

 

[TRUCKBROKE]

Ok here is my numbers:

Age 29
weight 202
height 5' 10"
BF 14-15%
Goal is 9-10%
BMR 2054
TDEE 2824

Workout schedule:

Monday: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Tuesday: Legs
Wednsday: Biceps, Back
Thursday: Repeat Monday
Friday: Repeat Wednsday
Sat and Sun: Rest
At least two days a week I run 30 minutes on the Treadmill or Iliptical.

Meals:

My diet runs about the same all the time.

week 1:

meal 1: 630am, Protein shake Syntha 6 (400 cal, 26g carb,46g protein

meal 2: 1200pm, Plain turkey sandwich on wheat bread, 10-14 Baked lays(Cal 120, total fat 3.5g, carb 21g, sugar 2g, protein
2g) , Pack of Nekot Crackers( 240 Cal,total fat 11g, carb 32g, sugar 11g, protein 5g), Apple or pear or bannana one of the three. and protein shake

meal 3: 600pm PWO Protein shake(Syntha 6)

meal 4: 730pm On a very close average is 2 chicken breast, blackeyed peas, steamed broccoli.

meal 5: 900pm Which is basically a snack will range from a Dill Pickle, pack of Nekot crackers, fresh pineapple, apple, pear or can of boiled peanuts. Usually one of the above.


On Saturday and Sunday my meals will be the same except for at supper I may go eat a Steak with steamed veggies and rice.
On Sat and Sun I drink no Shakes.

There may be some small variences in my meals but, this very close to what I`m doing on a day to day basis.

Sunday I usually make it a point to eat some pizza or get a Small Blizzard from DQ.

Everything hasn`t been bad the way i`ve been doing it but, now I`m wanting that hard lean look and I`m just not sure how to alter my diet for the best to do this.

When my BF was checked the trainer said most of what I had was the bottom of my stomach. The top has abs showing but, the bottom has a little you can pinch. I do Leg raises like there going out of style.

 

[Miss Muscle]

Real food is preferable to protein shakes. However it can be expensive and difficult to get real food. I hate almost all protein sources personally so shakes are a good way to get protein. I have one per day.

 

[tballz]

I take protein shake in the morning when I first wake up and PWO.

 

[3J]

Ok here is my numbers:

Age 29
weight 202
height 5' 10"
BF 14-15%
Goal is 9-10%
BMR 2054
TDEE 2824

Workout schedule:

Monday: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Tuesday: Legs
Wednsday: Biceps, Back
Thursday: Repeat Monday
Friday: Repeat Wednsday
Sat and Sun: Rest
At least two days a week I run 30 minutes on the Treadmill or Iliptical.

Meals:

My diet runs about the same all the time.

week 1:

meal 1: 630am, Protein shake Syntha 6 (400 cal, 26g carb,46g protein
omit the shake.. how about egg whites?? pasturized liquid egg whites?? wheres the morning complex carb??
meal 2: 1200pm, Plain turkey sandwich on wheat bread, 10-14 Baked lays seriously?? omit the baked lays (Cal 120, total fat 3.5g, carb 21g, sugar 2g, protein
2g) , Pack of Nekot Crackers( 240 Cal,total fat 11g, carb 32g, sugar 11g, protein 5g), again, omit the junk food.. crackers Apple or pear or bannana one of the three. and protein shake

meal 3: 600pm PWO Protein shake(Syntha 6)
add a semi simple carb.. like white rice, bagel, etc..
meal 4: 730pm On a very close average is 2 chicken breast, blackeyed peas, steamed broccoli. good

meal 5: 900pm Which is basically a snack will range from a Dill Pickle, pack of Nekot crackers, fresh pineapple, apple, pear or can of boiled peanuts. Usually one of the above.
omit the whole thing.. this is non-sense.. eat with purpose my friend.. add a lean beef here with a good efa source.. my fav is london broil with avocado

On Saturday and Sunday my meals will be the same except for at supper I may go eat a Steak with steamed veggies and rice.
On Sat and Sun I drink no Shakes.

There may be some small variences in my meals but, this very close to what I`m doing on a day to day basis.

Sunday I usually make it a point to eat some pizza or get a Small Blizzard from DQ.

Everything hasn`t been bad the way i`ve been doing it but, now I`m wanting that hard lean look and I`m just not sure how to alter my diet for the best to do this.

When my BF was checked the trainer said most of what I had was the bottom of my stomach. The top has abs showing but, the bottom has a little you can pinch. I do Leg raises like there going out of style.

personally i'd run a low carb diet and then start carb cycling

280g protien
150g carbs
80g fats..

your macros should look something like that

 

[TRUCKBROKE]

Ok so in the morn I should start trying to eat some egg whites instead of a Shake. How bout oatmeal?

Now at lunch I take it the Turkey on wheat is ok but, what is a good side if lays are no good? The apples,bannanas or pears are ok right?

My late nite snack: I can`t do avacodo. I could do like you say and do a london broil or piece of chicken. Is there any other good late nite snacks. One other thing lets say I get in late. Is there a cut off time when I shouldn`t be eating big even if I`m hungry? I usually try to go to bed around 1030pm.

oh yeah, should have said this to, here latley I been leaving the gym and going by subway for supper. I always get a six inch Buffaloe chick sandwich on wheat a water and a bag of apples (no chips). Is that ok? Nothing on sandwich but,pickles and black olives. no ranch.

 

[3J]

Ok so in the morn I should start trying to eat some egg whites instead of a Shake. How bout oatmeal?
oatmeal is fine... you can get pasturized liquid egg whites and chug that down, works like a shake
Now at lunch I take it the Turkey on wheat is ok but, what is a good side if lays are no good? The apples,bannanas or pears are ok right?
there is a myth that wheat bread is a good carb source... well, wheat bread that isn't enriched isn't so bad for you, but the gi vs. gl of white bread vs. wheat bread isn't much of a diff.. so people say wheat bread is better for you... bread for the most part is a poor carb source.. how about something starchy like a sweet potato or yams?? u could even do red kidney beans and kill two birds with one stone, it gives your great protien and great complex carbs..
My late nite snack: I can`t do avacodo. I could do like you say and do a london broil or piece of chicken. Is there any other good late nite snacks. One other thing lets say I get in late. Is there a cut off time when I shouldn`t be eating big even if I`m hungry? I usually try to go to bed around 1030pm.
you could eat right before you go to sleep for all i care.. your last meal of the day should be beef... beef is a slow digesting protien.. if you have chicken or eggs or turkey and the such, its outta your system in 4 hours.. so unless your gonna wake up in 4-5hrs after you fall asleep and eat something, id say beef is the best choice... casein is an alternative, but not one i like to use.. so if you came in late and dont have a choice, go for it.... add an efa to your last meal.. it could be almonds... it could be that you cook your beef in olive oil..
oh yeah, should have said this to, here latley I been leaving the gym and going by subway for supper. I always get a six inch Buffaloe chick sandwich on wheat a water and a bag of apples (no chips). Is that ok? Nothing on sandwich but,pickles and black olives. no ranch.

i love subway.. and yes i have used their chicken breast before, though i believe its processed... not the worst food choice..

if i were u i'd fill that sandwich up with all thee veggies i can
i put spinach, bell peppers, olives, tomatoes, cucumbers, silantro... everything but pickles...

a 6 inch on wheat has 50g carbs... so make sure your not eating a foot long.. acutally i usualy do double meat on a foot long and make it two meals when im in a rush..
id say eating the subway pwo would be the best time to do it, since you need faster acting carbs...

 

[Shaptown]

shakes will do 1/8th of what real food does for your body and metabolism..

the only time u should be having that shake is pwo...

i follow a very strict whole foods approach

Do me a favor bud and quote me a study that explicitly states that shakes have 1/8 the efficacy of an equivalent amount of macronutrients.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

I'm not in agreement with the statement about Shakes. When I bulk I have a shake with every meal. I put on big lean gains and lean out while on cycle.

 

[3J]

Do me a favor bud and quote me a study that explicitly states that shakes have 1/8 the efficacy of an equivalent amount of macronutrients.

do you really need research for that??

shakes are liquid.. they run out of your system in an hour, they are quick amino acids... eat chicken in it's place and your metabolism is put to work.. eat brocolli with it and it's put in more work.. you burn more calories and your body does a MUCH better job absorbing nutrients with real food...

what iv heard people do is mix their shake with something that's slow digesting.. like almond butter or oats... that helps slow down the digestion process and absorb the nutrients from the shake..

 

[3J]

I'm not in agreement with the statement about Shakes. When I bulk I have a shake with every meal. I put on big lean gains and lean out while on cycle.

your taking what i said out of context.. im talking about using shakes as meal replacments... your talking about adding a shake to a real meal if im not mistaken... which i dont have a problem with since your real meal will slow down the digestion process of the shake and you'll get more out of it

im worried about the guy who eats three real meals and adds three shakes thinking it's gonna do the same as a real meal...



again guys, there are many ways to do this.. iv been taught and believe in a whole foods approach.. personally, id rather have pasturized liquid egg whites then a whey shake...

there are pro bbers that dont even mess with shakes.. i know at least one from another board that doesn't even mess with it...

 

[freqfly]

I've always had multiple shakes each day as part of my bulking/cutting plans. I recently started working with a new trainer/nutritionist as of last week, Hany Rambod, and he currently has me doing 7 meals per day with NO shakes. And I have to say, this is amazing. Aside from feeling great all day with no ups and downs in energy, no stomache issues, no gas, more regular. Safe to say I'm a whole foods addict now. Not saying shakes are bad, but remember that they are supplements, not replacements.