Some guidance

[riproar]

Does this look like a good beginning package?

Week 01-12 Testosterone-Cypionate 400mg per week
week 01-04 Dianabol 20mg per day
Week 13-15 take nothing
Week 16-17 Nolvadex 40mg per day
Week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg per day

Plus using nizoral shampoo.

This is what I understand about this cycle.

1. The dianabol kick starts the size and strength gains
2. Using the nolvadex that far down in your cycle will allow you to keep more of your gains while your body is returning to normal.

Question here is what about using nolvadex maybe a week or two into the cycle to prevent gyno. I have read others say you don't need it unless you feel the itch. Whay wait for the itch, why not just use it with the stack?

Also, what about post cycle therapy (pct)? Is this where the nolvadex comes in at the end?


Thanks folks...

 

[diggydev]

Drop the dbol for your first run. The rest looks pretty good. Add clomid to your nolva for pct @ 50mg a day for 4 weeks. And you dont use nolva for gyno while on cycle...you need an a.i. such as aromasin or arimidex. Some run Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from day 1...some wait until symptoms show.

Also may want to consider hcg.

 

[Pitcage]

im looking to do the same cycle, but just the bols abit higher 40mg a day

 

[BXNY]

Drop the dbol for your first run. The rest looks pretty good. Add clomid to your nolva for pct @ 50mg a day for 4 weeks. And you dont use nolva for gyno while on cycle...you need an a.i. such as aromasin or arimidex. Some run Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from day 1...some wait until symptoms show.

Also may want to consider hcg.

For a layman, what does the HCG do for a light cycle like only test-e?

I was always under the impression that HCG was more for the semi advanced/advanced cycles where mixing is occurring.

 

[OX]

Does this look like a good beginning package?

Week 01-12 Testosterone-Cypionate 400mg per week
week 01-04 Dianabol 20mg per day
Week 13-15 take nothing
Week 16-17 Nolvadex 40mg per day
Week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg per day

Plus using nizoral shampoo.

This is what I understand about this cycle.

1. The dianabol kick starts the size and strength gains
2. Using the nolvadex that far down in your cycle will allow you to keep more of your gains while your body is returning to normal.

Question here is what about using nolvadex maybe a week or two into the cycle to prevent gyno. I have read others say you don't need it unless you feel the itch. Whay wait for the itch, why not just use it with the stack?

Also, what about post cycle therapy (pct)? Is this where the nolvadex comes in at the end?


Thanks folks...

You need to move your post cycle therapy (pct) up a week....3 weeks without a shot or serms will be hard on you and you will lose your gains faster.

I don't mind dbol for a first cycle. Its out of your system before you would really see any sides from test anyway. I would bump it to atleast 30 or 40 mg per day though.

You need an anti estrogen like aromasin for the cycle. Nolvadex won't block estrogen it will just block estrogen from attaching to the receptor leaving you with high amounts of estrogen in your system. If it were me, I would get some clomid to add to the nolva in post cycle therapy (pct).

 

[OX]

For a layman, what does the HCG do for a light cycle like only test-e?

I was always under the impression that HCG was more for the semi advanced/advanced cycles where mixing is occurring.

It's not really necessary but if it can aid in recovery I would use it

 

[BXNY]

It's not really necessary but if it can aid in recovery I would use it

How is it dosed and when?

 

[OX]

How is it dosed and when?

Well it all depends on the person really. There are many ways to run hcg. Most here will tell you to start at 250iu 2 times a week Mon/thurs. That might be ok for a light cycle of test only but when you start mixing in heavy androgens like deca then I wouldn't start anywhere less then 500iu twice per week and even at that dose you will Proly find yourself titrating up. I myself need 1000iu twice a week to keep the nuts producing. Then there is running it between cycle and serm therapy. You can run it Dr scallys way, you can fo the 500iu ed for 10 days way, you can do 1000iu eod for 10 days way, or many other ways lol it works in many ways really

 

[bigherm2121]

You need to move your post cycle therapy (pct) up a week....3 weeks without a shot or serms will be hard on you and you will lose your gains faster.

I don't mind dbol for a first cycle. Its out of your system before you would really see any sides from test anyway. I would bump it to atleast 30 or 40 mg per day though.

You need an anti estrogen like aromasin for the cycle. Nolvadex won't block estrogen it will just block estrogen from attaching to the receptor leaving you with high amounts of estrogen in your system. If it were me, I would get some clomid to add to the nolva in post cycle therapy (pct).

well technically if you look at bloods levels on a test e or c cycle if dosed right does last about 3 weeks. Most people are told two weeks after last injection to be sure. Also post cycle therapy (pct) is cheap so why bot run it. I will reccomend two weeks after last injection.

 

[balboa270]

blast is best before post cycle therapy (pct) in my eyes fuck during cycle

 

[bigherm2121]

blast is best before post cycle therapy (pct) in my eyes fuck during cycle

Yes I agree. And fuck do I miss your bro. I hope your doing cool my bro.

 

[balboa270]

Yes I agree. And fuck do I miss your bro. I hope your doing cool my bro.

oh I'll come back around bud, I miss me too lol

 

[bigherm2121]

oh I'll come back around bud, I miss me too lol

Wow you selfish fuck!! After all these kind word this is what I get. I'm.hurt man!! I miss trying to translate your posts. Lol.

 

[OX]

well technically if you look at bloods levels on a test e or c cycle if dosed right does last about 3 weeks. Most people are told two weeks after last injection to be sure. Also post cycle therapy (pct) is cheap so why bot run it. I will reccomend two weeks after last injection.

Hahahaha your confusing me here Herm....correct me if I'm wrong but i did tell him to move it up a week that would make it two weeks....he originally had it timed at 3 weeks. I agree that 2 1/2 weeks to 3 weeks would be closer to the time where exogenous test levels are more near natty test levels because that is really where we see the most benefit from our serms.

 

[bigherm2121]

Ya bro you just posted what i said just a little better in English. Lol. I wish i could find this post I had with detoak about this same convo were having. It's good info about your test levels and crap like that. He learned me a bit. I'll try and find it.

 

[riproar]

So basicall y I should do it like this

Week 01-12 Testosterone-cypionate 400mg per week
Week 13-15 take nothing
Week 15-17 Nolvadex 40mg per day + Clomid
Week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg per day + Clomid

I have to look into the clomid thing, I didn't really do any reading on that since it's my first cycle.

 

[OX]

Ya bro you just posted what i said just a little better in English. Lol. I wish i could find this post I had with detoak about this same convo were having. It's good info about your test levels and crap like that. He learned me a bit. I'll try and find it.

Well not to get technical with your big motherfukn ass but i posted first and you repeated what I said

 

[BXNY]

So basicall y I should do it like this

Week 01-12 Testosterone-cypionate 400mg per week
Week 13-15 take nothing
Week 15-17 Nolvadex 40mg per day + Clomid
Week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg per day + Clomid

I have to look into the clomid thing, I didn't really do any reading on that since it's my first cycle.

Week 15-18:
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

 

[balboa270]

Well not to get technical with your big motherfukn ass but i posted first and you repeated what I said

Easy fellas its a big forum

 

[OX]

So basicall y I should do it like this

Week 01-12 Testosterone-cypionate 400mg per week
Week 13-15 take nothing
Week 15-17 Nolvadex 40mg per day + Clomid
Week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg per day + Clomid

I have to look into the clomid thing, I didn't really do any reading on that since it's my first cycle.

No.its 13-14 take nothing

Then start serms week 15....clomid is 50/50/50/50