tbol/anavar cycle.. Advice needed..

[blade1989]

26
5.9"
166 lbs

Goal: Lean muscle not too big.. gain 5-8 lbs.. athletic look. Do not want to compete ever. Just want to cut fat and build me some lean muscle mass.
Past cycle: Anavar cycle(28 days).. stopped it, because anavar was fake.. Did not need PCT for fake anavar but yet did 1 week PCT 20mg nolva ED.
Why not test: Wife Issues..
Why Anavar again: Got a good trusted source..
Lifting Exp: 3.5 years.. started as a 220 pounder fat fuck.. lost 50-55 lbs and now bulking ever since.. gained fat..
Workout History: Started with full body for a year, then did strength training for almost a year, now doing a PPL type split.
Diet: Eat pretty clean most of the time.. major foods, oats, brown rice, sweet potatoes chicken, yogurt, whey etc etc. will be eating 300-400 cals over maintainance, protein 1.5g/lb, fat 0.5g/lb, rest carbs
Supplements: Caffeine(PW), Creatine Mono, Whey, D3.
My Current Lifts
Bench 225
Squat 305
Deadlift 315

Now for the cycle, not 100% sure about it.. i know you should do a test e cycle and stuff.. I have a test e cycle in mind, will do that once im able to tell my wife the benefits of injectables..but for now
TBOL/ANAVAR.. Or run them solo? JUST SOME ADVICE GUYS..

cycle
Week 1-5 60mg TBOL
Week 6-10 40mg ANAVAR
PCT
40/40/20/20 nolva

OR
Week 1-6 60mg TBOL+40mg ANAVAR
PCT
40/40/20/40 nolva

OR
Run TBOL only and ANAVAR only?

Liv 52 for liver Support (3-4 tabs), Maybe Taurine for back pumps.
Do i need proviron?
Any more liver Support.. n2guard and stuff is not available in INDIA.. So theres that.

 

[Megatron28]

You know you need Test in your cycle but you want to run orals without test anyway? That is just plain retarded. Oral AAS shuts down your natural test production and at the same time you are not putting any test back in your body. Why would you knowingly do that to yourself?

Man up and use injectable test or don't cycle. It is that simple.

 

[blade1989]

You know you need Test in your cycle but you want to run orals without test anyway? That is just plain retarded. Oral AAS shuts down your natural test production and at the same time you are not putting any test back in your body. Why would you knowingly do that to yourself?

Man up and use injectable test or don't cycle. It is that simple.

As i mentioned i dont want to do test right now.. There are several reasons for it.. hairline isn't one, i will do it but right now ive set my mind on this cycle.. Can you please help me in regards with this? us

 

[bigben66]

Why would you even think that people will give you favorable critique on this cycle....

When everything about it is wrong, and you even concede that yourself!?

 

[blade1989]

Why would you even think that people will give you favorable critique on this cycle....

When everything about it is wrong, and you even concede that yourself!?

Okay Thank you.. I never said my cycle is wrong. i know many people who've ran this cycle successfully.. im just not too sure about taking 2 orals together, because its heavy on the liver.. that is the reason why i want to split the 2.. or if can i do either one.. and as for test e, i have cleared i dont want to do it.. i dont want to gain 15-20 lbs or just aiming for 5-8 lbs of lean mass which i can keep..

 

[bigben66]

Are you really that stupid that you need this spelled out for you?

T'Bol will suppress your own natural testosterone levels... yes, you may feel 'ok' whilst running it, but the fact that you have zero testosterone in your system will not only affect your libido, musculature etc DURING your cycle... but when you stop taking the orals, there will be a period of weeks where you have nothing in your system at all.... you will feel awful, lose any gains you might have been lucky enough to make, and in all honesty, probably affect your natural levels long term.

There is a reason why people are suggesting you inject Testosterone... and that is because when your suppress your own, you need to replace it with exogenous testosterone, to enable you to function as a male.

There is no reason to try to reinvent the wheel here, keep it simple, do as directed, and you could have a modicum of success.

But go ahead with your planned cycle, and prepare yourself for disaster.

BigBen out.

 

[Megatron28]

As i mentioned i dont want to do test right now.. There are several reasons for it.. hairline isn't one, i will do it but right now ive set my mind on this cycle.. Can you please help me in regards with this? us

Nobody here is going to encourage your to run an oral-only cycle. Nobody is going to give you advice on how to do it because it is bad. You should not use any AAS until you are ready to incorporate injectable testosterone. No pinning = no cycle.

If you insist on proceeding you should ask your friends who had "success".

 

[blade1989]

Nobody here is going to encourage your to run an oral-only cycle. Nobody is going to give you advice on how to do it because it is bad. You should not use any AAS until you are ready to incorporate injectable testosterone. No pinning = no cycle.

If you insist on proceeding you should ask your friends who had "success".

maybe I'll do what i had planned once im ready.

Week1-12 TEST E 500mg, 250mg MONDAY AND THURSDAY
HCG @500iu/week Monday and Thursday

Arimidex .25mg EOD starting day 2 of my cycle (Maybe .50mg)

Wait 2 weeks (Continue HCG during this period)
Week 15: 75mg clomid ED & 40mg novladex ED
Week 16-18: 50mg clomid & 20mg novladex

600 mg of N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) daily. (for liver damage)
Maybe Nizoral 2% for hairloss

Can anyone tell me about needles, or just post a link.