Test/Tren Ratio... Arimidex enough?
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oldmusclemike
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Ha Ya know SON I must agree ^^^^^^^^^^^^. Really it's like you haven't read ANYTHING on this forum at all.
What is the goal for the cycle. OP you need to start reading.
That link goes nowhere.
I just started considering Tren... so I guess I was oblivious to the previous Tren posts
cybrsage
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It comes down to what your goals are for the Tren use.
lean bulk/dry gains
Black Beard
@ X450 Gravity
Low test, moderate-high tren.
Black Beard
@ X450 Gravity
100-300 mg test E. 300-600 mg tren E
Can I do Test E with Tren A?... .never tried Tren and from what I read, its better to use Tren A first time.
lowest possible test dose + highest possible tren dose (you can handle) is the way to go.
for me, my best blast to date was 175mg test prop a week + 700mg big d pharma's tren ace a week and thats back when i didnt know what the fuck iwas doing. there is no doubt in my mind that tren was mixed with masteron because even when i run 700mgs a week now, i dont get the same results unless i add in mast.
GOOD LUCK
NG
for me, my best blast to date was 175mg test prop a week + 700mg big d pharma's tren ace a week and thats back when i didnt know what the fuck iwas doing. there is no doubt in my mind that tren was mixed with masteron because even when i run 700mgs a week now, i dont get the same results unless i add in mast.
GOOD LUCK
NG
oldmusclemike
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Well there ya have it. All depending on your diet it seems simple to figure out. Less test then less E2 to control, less water gain and bloat lest diet after cycle. While using the Tren for strength and no water retention less E2 to control and dryer gain. Again your diet.
If a Tren cycle you only need low dose Test for your Test replacement. 200 - 250 mgs week.
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oldmusclemike
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Yes do Tren Ace so you can raise and or lower depending on sides.
Your AI with this type cycle will be low dose. Get BW cause Tren can make you feel tired and you can miss-read it.
Your AI with this type cycle will be low dose. Get BW cause Tren can make you feel tired and you can miss-read it.
Can you outline the AI part of it... I see Adex, Caber, Prami all as suggestions.
Black Beard
@ X450 Gravity
Benefits of Tren A : Hits faster, clears out faster. You feel the effects quicker, and you can stop if you don't like the sides and it will leave your body faster than the longer ester.
Cons: Having to inject everyday or every other day. Grant it, volume injected on a daily basis is not high.
Benefits of Tren E : Having to inject less often, 1-2 x week. If you do test+tren E, that's just two days of the week you have to inject.
Cons: You have to wait longer to feel it, if you absolutely hate it, it will take longer to clear your system.
If testosterone is very low, you may not need any ancillaries. A lot of people see increased sides when testosterone is high. BP+Gyno seems to increase exponentially with higher testosterone dosages.
This is a powerful drug. Let diet and training do most of the work and you won't need a lot and will be happy with the results. The biggest problem with a lot of AAS users, they rely 90% on the drugs and when they stop seeing results in two weeks they scream "Plateau!! I need MOAR!!"
It's no surprise they shrink in 30 days once they stop.
Cons: Having to inject everyday or every other day. Grant it, volume injected on a daily basis is not high.
Benefits of Tren E : Having to inject less often, 1-2 x week. If you do test+tren E, that's just two days of the week you have to inject.
Cons: You have to wait longer to feel it, if you absolutely hate it, it will take longer to clear your system.
If testosterone is very low, you may not need any ancillaries. A lot of people see increased sides when testosterone is high. BP+Gyno seems to increase exponentially with higher testosterone dosages.
This is a powerful drug. Let diet and training do most of the work and you won't need a lot and will be happy with the results. The biggest problem with a lot of AAS users, they rely 90% on the drugs and when they stop seeing results in two weeks they scream "Plateau!! I need MOAR!!"
It's no surprise they shrink in 30 days once they stop.
theres no prolactin issues with tren?
Black Beard
@ X450 Gravity
That's a controversial subject. Cabergoline can help fight low libido caused by 19-nors like trenbolone. I haven't seen any hard data and prolactin and tren. Keep doses low and see how it affects you. Always have the ancillaries on hand.
oldmusclemike
Well-known member
OP I really think that you've gotten spoon fed enough. You need to do some research. Really man if you were up on the steroid profiles you would know more about Tren as well as Test.
If you were to read up on Estrogen and Prolactin you would know more about AI's and what compounds are AI's.
Damn man everything you ask you as more and it shows you have not even basic knowledge of what you are doing. I thought we were done after we told you about your goal will tell you high or low test w/high or low Tren. If you were listening for MONTHS you would know why most people run Tren Ace so they can lower it if need. Are you aware of all the side. Really guy WTF do you know about what you are about to embark on.
Wow you have Black B schooling you on everything.
START READING ALL THE STICKY"S....ALL OF THEM...Then READ UP ON TREN
If you were to read up on Estrogen and Prolactin you would know more about AI's and what compounds are AI's.
Damn man everything you ask you as more and it shows you have not even basic knowledge of what you are doing. I thought we were done after we told you about your goal will tell you high or low test w/high or low Tren. If you were listening for MONTHS you would know why most people run Tren Ace so they can lower it if need. Are you aware of all the side. Really guy WTF do you know about what you are about to embark on.
Wow you have Black B schooling you on everything.
START READING ALL THE STICKY"S....ALL OF THEM...Then READ UP ON TREN
