Thinking about running insulin post-cycle to minimize muscle-loss?

Drveejay11

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This study seems to support post cycle insulin:

Insulin enhancement of luteinizing hormone and follicle-stimulating hormone release by cultured pituitary cells.

Adashi EY, Hsueh AJ, Yen SS.

The role of insulin in the regulation of basal and gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH)-stimulated release of LH and FSH was investigated in vitro using primary cultures of rat anterior pituitary cells from adult ovariectomized rats. Anterior pituitary cells were incubated for 2 days in the presence or absence of insulin in a serum-free medium. At the end of the insulin treatment, the cells were washed and reincubated in the presence or absence of GnRH, and the LH and FSH released into the medium were measured by RIA. Treatment with insulin (1.0 microgram/ml) for 2 days resulted in significant increases in both the basal and the maximal release of LH and FSH, as well as a 3.2- and 6.3-fold decrease in the ED50 values for GnRH in terms of LH and FSH release, respectively. Treatment with increasing concentrations (0.1-10,000 ng/ml) of insulin, led to a dose-dependent increase in the GnRH (3 X 10(-10) M)-stimulated release of both LH and FSH. This effect of insulin was significant (P less than 0.05) at a physiological concentration of 1 ng/ml (24 microU/ml) with an ED50 value of 40 ng/ml. Increasing duration of exposure to insulin resulted in time-dependent increases in the GnRH (3 X 10(-10) M)-stimulated release of LH, becoming significant at 24 h with maximal enhancement observed by 48 h. The effect of insulin was specific; epidermal or fibroblast growth factor did not enhance LH release. The augmenting effect of insulin was not associated with cellular proliferation or an overall change in protein or LH synthesis. Furthermore, the effect of insulin was independent of the ambient glucose concentration. Insulin was, however, without effect on gonadotrophs cultured in a serum-supplemented medium. Our findings suggest that the gonadotroph constitutes a target cell of insulin and that insulin may act directly on the anterior pituitary in the regulation of gonadotropin release.

PMID: 6781875 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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DRveejay11 said:
This study seems to support post cycle insulin:

Insulin enhancement of luteinizing hormone and follicle-stimulating hormone release by cultured pituitary cells.

Adashi EY, Hsueh AJ, Yen SS.



DrVJ,
Now this I like. I know I split hairs sometimes on what our studies demonstrate, and how we state that, and I've been taken to task for it before.
But your statement is a valid one: "this study seems to support post cycle insulin". Which it does.
I think if we're going to delve into the scientific literature, we SHOULD be careful (as you have) about the way we preface or intro the studies. Many times lay people just aren't aware of that, and too much is made of an abstract or article from the literature search.
Far to often, an in vitro, non-human study, or simply anecdotal evidence, is cited as "proving" that this or that drug works best, or whatever.
Kudos to you!
 
It will work awsome!! I would keep the d-bol out of there and let your HPTA fully recover!

Slin/creatine/glutamine/dextrose/wpi is an awsome combo!
 
Re: Re: Thinking about running insulin post-cycle to minimize muscle-loss?

buffdoc said:
DRveejay11 said:
This study seems to support post cycle insulin:

Insulin enhancement of luteinizing hormone and follicle-stimulating hormone release by cultured pituitary cells.

Adashi EY, Hsueh AJ, Yen SS.



DrVJ,
Now this I like. I know I split hairs sometimes on what our studies demonstrate, and how we state that, and I've been taken to task for it before.
But your statement is a valid one: "this study seems to support post cycle insulin". Which it does.
I think if we're going to delve into the scientific literature, we SHOULD be careful (as you have) about the way we preface or intro the studies. Many times lay people just aren't aware of that, and too much is made of an abstract or article from the literature search.
Far to often, an in vitro, non-human study, or simply anecdotal evidence, is cited as "proving" that this or that drug works best, or whatever.
Kudos to you!

;)

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DRVEEJAY,
Where did you find that abstract, i would like to do some more research on insulin, all my workouts partners think im nuts for using insulin.
 
RoadHouse said:
DRVEEJAY,
Where did you find that abstract, i would like to do some more research on insulin, all my workouts partners think im nuts for using insulin.

Damn....I wish I could help ya brother........I don't remember WHERE I swiped this from.

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