Thinking of using Lutalyse and/or PGF2A?

Drveejay11

I am banned!
I've been seeing this stuff pop up here and there and I'm not sure if people realize the potential hazards of this stuff?? Anyway.......if you have/are considering it......at least read this first:

Lutalyse:

Lutalyse is a veterinary drug that's coming into vogue with serious hardcore bodybuilders who'll stop at nothing to gain an "advantage" (even if it's not a real advantage). utalyse is made by Upjohn and is a prostaglandin (PGF2Aa).


PGF2a possibly mediates the endogenous insulin levels and is also a de facto thermogenic, as body temperature is increased after the administration of exogenous PGF2a. Unlike other fat burners, which only decrease the size of fat cells, PGF2a actually destroys them. Fat cells die when exposed to PGF2a.


Side effects associated with PGF2a use are an elevation in body temperature, vomiting, labored breathing and severe abdominal pain/cramping. As PGF2a vasoconstricts the blood vessels in the lungs, the user will feel a tightening in the chest. If you're an asthmatic, use of PGFa could very well put you into full respiratory arrest followed by death. Because PGF2a increases insulinogenic effects, hypoglycemia is a potential side effect.


PGF2a has a very short half-life in the body (only minutes) and most of it is metabolized in the lungs, thus making frequent injections necessary. PGF2a will almost always cause a very strong contraction of the intestine and bladder, emptying the stomach and intestines of all its contents. That's a nice way of saying you'll have explosive diarrhea.


Rumor has it that PGF2a will make training near impossible because of the pump that is created from this drug alone. One of the logistical drawbacks of PGF2a is the difficulty of administration. As it has such a short half-life, injections will be needed quite frequently. Lutalyse comes in a 5 ml (5 mg/ml) multi-dose vial. A single aspirin can render the effects of Lutalyse nonexistent, so most people who use this drug avoid aspirin and aspirin analogs.


Legit use of Lutalyse is by cattle farmers and ranchers. Farmers and ranchers will use this drug to induce abortions in barnyard animals. One-hundred percent of the idiots, uh, I mean, users, I spoke with told me that Lutalyse made them feel terrible. In short, this stuff could kill you, a lot faster that steroids ever could. I wouldn't suggest anyone try this stuff.


Is PGF2A for me?
Is PGF2A for everyone? Clearly not! Will it work? Yes! In this information, I will try to cover as much as possible about this drug. What I have put together here is based much upon personal experiences…. I feel no report can accurately prepare you for everything…. PGF2A is no exception!


PGF2A and Anabolism
Many studies have demonstrated an anabolic effect of PGF2A in skeletal muscles of both humans and animals. Paradoxically, PGF2A usage is still reserved to a bodybuilding elite and no one is willing to divulge the precious secret edge. One of the most remarkable effects of PGF2A is that it mediates the major part of the anabolic effects of insulin. By using PGF2A, you can use far less insulin and get a far stronger muscle building effect.


Is PGF2A safe?
The answer is clearly no, but neither is the use of steroids, insulin, clenbuterol, etc. By the way, PGF2A is invisible at any drug test. What kind of side effects to expect? The first ones -- if we except the elevation of temperature -- are that it will empty your guts of whatever they contain. So make sure you have unrestricted use of a bathroom. This is going to last around 20 minutes. What you do not want is to inject PGF2A into a vein! Learn to do the aspiration test. PGF2A is to be injected intramuscularly with an insulin needle if you are lean enough. This is going to hurt like hell and for a very long time (up to an hour) if you inject into a vein. You also may feel as if you had some kind of cold in your throat. It is due to the vasoconstriction effect PGF2A has in your lungs. Vomiting is a reported side effect but I have never heard of it in men.


PGF2A is not to be confused with steroids
You've probably realized by now that PGF2A produces growth in a radically different way from steroids -- although I do not exclude that part of the anabolic actions of androgens are mediated by a local release of PGF2A. The way PGF2A should be used is therefore radically different from that of androgens. Steroid use is rather comfortable. You inject or swallow them occasionally and wait for the growth to occur. This is not the case with PGF2A. Their main drawback is precisely their difficulty of administration. Steroids once injected survive several days in your body. PGF2A will last only several minutes though their stimulatory actions on anabolism will be far longer lasting (hours). It means that frequent injections are compulsory. Ideally, this would be five times per day, 30 minutes after meals.


You will also notice that once you have injected PGF2A, the muscle, which received it, gets sore almost immediately. If the muscle was already sore from training, that painful sensation may become very intense. You definitely do not want to repeat injections at the very same location, hence the necessity for rotation. Similarly, you will notice that you cannot inject in a muscle and then train this muscle. PGF2A is algesic (a pain mediator). Therefore, the timing of injections is key. You should wait for at least 2 to 3 days after you have trained a muscle to inject it. Then you will have to wait for 24 hours before training this muscle. If your muscle is already sore, I advise against using it as a site of injection as long as it hurts.


You will also learn that it is more comfortable to hit the outer part of the muscle than the inner part. For example, it is less painful to hit the outer head of the triceps than the inner head that touches your lats. Some bodyparts such as the biceps, the back, etc. are especially sensitive to the pain sensation PGF2A will induce.


PGF2A and Weak Bodyparts
The cardinal rule of PGF2A is to inject as far away as possible from the Intestine. You see, PGF2A induces a very strong contraction of the Intestine and the bladder (both smooth muscles). The major candidate as a site of injection was the front shoulder. But by repeating injections in the shoulders, bodybuilders soon ended up with grossly overdeveloped
Front delt's. They looked like walking monkeys. The rest of their body was growing too, but not as fast as the muscles closest to the sites of injections.


What this means is that if you want to develop a weak muscle, just inject PGF2A locally and watch! The muscle grows. We are talking about a real muscle growth and not an artificial swelling like Synthol or Esiclene would induce. Calves are a muscle of choice. In fact, even if your calves failed To grow no matter how much training you administered, PGF2A will
solve your problem. After a single cycle of PGF2A, unresponsive calves start to respond, even if they never did before!


The localized growth induced by PGF2A may appear magical, but there is a simple explanation. The life cycle of the injected PGF2A is terribly short (minutes). Most of it will .Be destroyed in your lungs. If you hit your right calf for example, this muscle will be exposed to a maximal concentration of PGF2A. As the prostaglandin rapidly leaks out of the calf and passes into the blood, it will quickly reach the lungs where most of it will be destroyed. What is left of the PGF2A will be dispatched evenly though you're whole body. It means that the other muscles will be exposed to far less of the anabolic effects of PGF2A. So unless you want to make a weak point grow, you should rotate the sites of injections frequently which is not a problem.
 
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PGF2A sounds appealing on paper, but from what I hear the sides far outweigh the results.
 
The sides aren't nearly as bad when injecting SC to kill fat vs IM for localized growth (most say for growth it isn't worth it).
 
I used it and wasn't too impressed. It made me feel like complete shit. I shot it sub q 5x a day and it sucked. Had some decent fat loss but nothing spectacular.
 
Pretty much felt like I had a bad case of the flu. It made me just want to sleep all day and I ran a high fever. Running to the bathroom five times a day really sucked. If I am going to use something for fat loss that makes me feel like shit I think dnp is a better choice.
 
I only went up to a max of 3 times a day, cause as Wartime said, you'll spend all day feeling like you have the flu otherwise. I'll probably finish some up when I'm not on ECA, but just do it once in the evening.

I also only did 2 cc at a time ONCE.
My sides were:

having to go to the bathroom (0-3 times),
flu-like feeling lasting 1/2 - 2 hours,
on the 2 CC injection (1 CC per location), I could "feel" my lungs filtering it out and had a slight metallic taste in my mouth.
a slight red spot, not really sore at the injection spot, looked like it could have been a mosquito bite or something


edit: I made a dosage mistake which I corrected
 
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The stuff filters out so fast, I really doubt it cold kill you except under some extraordinary circumstances.
The only people I've ever read mentioning that as a posibility are the T-Mag types that then go on to push their weight loss supplement.

I had read the above article before, I don't think the writer is biased, just covering his ass with that statement.

We all know that DNP has killed people, and it doesn't actually kill the fat cells (which is really the only draw of pgf2a).
 
BUFFDAWG10 said:
Doesn't sound like a very pleasant experience!

On the positive side, it did give me some quality time alone in the bathroom :), and the fat in my love handle is dead forever.
 
AustinTX said:
The stuff filters out so fast, I really doubt it cold kill you except under some extraordinary circumstances.
The only people I've ever read mentioning that as a posibility are the T-Mag types that then go on to push their weight loss supplement.

I had read the above article before, I don't think the writer is biased, just covering his ass with that statement.

We all know that DNP has killed people, and it doesn't actually kill the fat cells (which is really the only draw of pgf2a).

Yeah.....that's what is appealing to me too, that it actually KILLS the fat cells as opposed to shrinking them!
 
rollercoaster said:
Thats a great read drVJ. How would this compare to DNP, which one is more effective, dangerous, more sides??

Unfortunately bro.........I have not done either one! My comments would be purely speculative....mainly stemming from other user's experiences. I'm sure someone here has researched them both.......?
 
AustinTX said:

My sides were:

having to go to the bathroom (0-3 times),
flu-like feeling lasting 1/2 - 2hours,
on the 1.5CC injection, I could "feel" my lungs filtering it out and had a slight metallic taste in my mouth.
a slight red spot, not really sore at the injection spot, looked like it could have been a mosquito bite or something

Those were my Exact sides. I did it 5x's a day and it felt like i had a flu all day long. It sucked because it was affecting my diet and training.
 
Wartime100 said:
Those were my Exact sides. I did it 5x's a day and it felt like i had a flu all day long. It sucked because it was affecting my diet and training.

Same here at only 3x a day for a weekend, as soon as I realized that I was feeling fine it was time for another shot, which I put off for a little while. I didn't really want to do anything.

I started at .25CC at 2 "symetrical" locations, then went to .50 each for a few, then to .75 x 2. I only did 1CC x 2 once, then decided that 1 CC was better than .75, but that I'd just do one location at a time. I still have some left, so will probably stick with that once in the evenings during the non-ECA part of my diet coming up in a week and half...

I used slin syringes, the short ones for the pec area, since injecting in the chest still freaks me out, and with those I know I can't "hit" anything...
 
HA! you crazy ass! I go away on spring break for 1 week and come back with you wanting to use PGF LMAO!

Havent used it myself, but Decaman on AF has used it with no reported sides. I guess it gets some, but not others. You could always use really lite doses though.

I was gonna use it once but it never came...supposedly customs got it...damnit.
 
Billy_Bathgate said:


Havent used it myself, but Decaman on AF has used it with no reported sides. I guess it gets some, but not others.

I agree. My buddy used it also but had much fewer sides than me. Either way I don't think the results are anything special.
 
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