tren a or test prop for a kick start??

[lodssx71]

hey guys, just wanted a some suggestions on my cycle plan for the next run.
it is as follows;

test e @300ml/wk wks 1-12
tren e @500 or 600ml/wk not sure yet, 5 or 6 hundred wks 1-12
eq @ 500ml/wk wks 1-12 dont really wanna go 16 prob be better though..:/
hcg @ 500ml/wk wks 1-14
clomid weeks 16 on til done maybe 100 a day for a week then 50 a day for 4 weeks or so

now id like to kick start with either test prop or tren a this is where id like some input, which one, how much? i am thinkin prop @ 500 or 600/wk @ 3wks or tren a @400/week for 3 weeks.

i am gonna front load everything just not too sure wich kick start i should use..... i will not do orals hammers the liver too hard protien shakes screw me up, so orals are out!

history;

on 5th cycle now, in three years. always did time on time off. sus @ 500 first cycle 20lbs in 12 weeks. kept it all! but thats cause i was waaay under weight. 140lbs, 5' 11" @ 41 years old. did another sus @ 500 gained 5 lost 5 waste! then sus 750/ wk gained 7 lost 7 lol and again yet another cycle same f****n thing. so now i tried 500 eq, 750 sus for 8weeks and added tren e @ 250/wk, @ wk 9 to carry out to 16 total weeks, so like 7 or 8 weeks on the added tren e. no sides to speak of other then acne. i am like 5 to 7% bf no sh*t been like that my whole life, even less when not on the program! been workin out last 10 years, have an ectomorphic build and a supercharged metabolism. diet could be better, but i think adequate.
using gp gear so i think it is legit. pct @ clomid on all cycles, and doing hcg through out on this one, it does keep the boys plumped up! lol I DON'T HAVE ANY GYNO ISSUES, NOT EVEN A LIL SORE. so not sure if i should keep a lil somethin on hand for that? look at my pic, i am a lil on the lean side.

now, i appreciate all insight, but don't attack me if i am off on somethin here, help me fix it, thats y i am here!



let me know what i left out, and i will add for proper advice, thanx, oh i am shootin for 200 or 210 lbs, i know it is a marathon, not a sprint.

 

[tbonexl]

If your going to frontload the test and tren, then why do you need a kick start? A lil overkill. Why not use just short esters during your cycle? Should run eq longer then 12 weeks. Run test 2 weeks longer then everything else. Just because you don't have gyno doesn't mean you don't possibly high high estrogen. Did you ever have bloodwork done to confirm this? Considering your cycle history and your claim of body fat, I would say your diet needs attention. If your losing whatever gains you get, your not eating. Could also be water weight due to no use of an ai. Lots of red flags going on here bud...

 

[lodssx71]

thanx for the info... i wasn't sure if front loading would do the same thing as kick starting... are you saying it will accomplish the same thing?? if so that is wonderful!

i am under the impression long esters have less sides then short esters especially when it comes to tren, correct? i am really tryin to avoid sides as much as possible. so far only acne so i can deal with that.

.i am runnin eq now @ 16 weeks. some were sayin with higher tren then i am takin now, bp could be an issue, maybe masteron instead of eq for the cycle in question?

i kept the original 20lbs but thats it, thats y i decided to do some stackin now and talk to you guys to get the next one perfect.

ill get some blood work done before this cycle is done. i am taking the eq to try to increase my appetite, doesn't seem to effect it.. lol


so if front loading simulates kick starting how does this look:

test e 300ml/wk 1-14
tren e 600ml/wk 1-12
masteron instead of eq??
hcg 500ml/wk 1-16
clomid start wk 17 til its gone
ai of some sort??

thanx for your imput, greatly appreciated, please tweak this as you think it may work best, short esters too if you think they may be better, and why?

 

[lodssx71]

oops that doesn't include the front load, just figure double the amounts for the first week...


thanx

 

[lodssx71]

anybody?? i was hoping to get an idea of one more thing to take with the tren e and test e. eq, masteron, decca?? what would be best? and ai?

thanx for any input..