Tren Acetate or Test Enanthate: which hurts liver?

[cycle]

I am off my home-made tren (fina) and test Enanthate cycle after being on for over a year. Liver zymes are high but I don't have the values and cholesterol LDL is high . Blood pressure normal and PSA negative. My age is 49
Right now I feel like crap. I'm taking Tamoxifen and the boys are a good size but they are completly dry .....no ejaculate.?

did the tren cause the liver problems ?
how many weeks should I stay off?

 

[cheezy]

People say Tren can hurt your liver, but I havent seen any proof. Really doubt it was the test. Did you check your liver values before you went on? On a side note how did the cycle go for you?

 

[cycle]

Tren every-other day 100mg/ml and ~1000mg test /week
this was a very good combination for me , good gains, lost some fat.
Sides: some nipple tenderness, night sweats and sleeplesness , ran out of good inj sites and it became hard to find an area that was not sore .
Long cycle resulted in immune suppression and I had a bad cold for 2 weeks? Also developed a bad rotator cuff which more than 6 months.
I just read about GHRP-6 which will cure my joint problems and will use this peptide, which releases growth hormone, as soon as I figure out where to buy?
BTW I don't drink or take tylenol and yes my liver and cholesterol were normal before the cycle.

AAAHHH!! I CAN'T TAKE THIS OFF CYCLE pain I just took 2cc of test enanthate after 30 days of being off.!!!!! Maybe I will stop the gear again in 3 weeks after these hectic christmass holidays.

4 weeks ago I injured my testicle somehow in the gym and I had blood in my ejaculate for 2 weeks, now there is no ejaculate or blood but some small specs blood clots.
The doctor gave me Cypro for 2 weeks just in case it was an infection? The Cypro was taken after the blood tests for the liver enzymes.

 

[lucky6914]

Are you takin Clomid with that nolva? you should do them together. and for your liver take some liv52 or milk thistle they should help.

 

[the_hulk]

I hope you werent on a cycle for a year. if so and at 1g of test a week, the sides your feeling is what i wouldve expected. Why in the world were you on for so long?! Does the doc know anything about the supps u were using? I hope your taking some good PCT, cuz your gonna need it. Damn... why for a year though??!!

ps- whats your cycle history like?

 

[joshbeam1]

I hope you werent on a cycle for a year. if so and at 1g of test a week, the sides your feeling is what i wouldve expected. Why in the world were you on for so long?! Does the doc know anything about the supps u were using? I hope your taking some good PCT, cuz your gonna need it. Damn... why for a year though??!!

ps- whats your cycle history like?

some power lifters take test 24/7 from what i hear....i dont' agree but i dunno much from personal experience so am leaving this 2 the vets in the game

 

[Vegas]

Moved to appropriate forum.

 

[cycle]

I hope you werent on a cycle for a year. if so and at 1g of test a week, the sides your feeling is what i wouldve expected. Why in the world were you on for so long?! Does the doc know anything about the supps u were using? I hope your taking some good PCT, cuz your gonna need it. Damn... why for a year though??!!

ps- whats your cycle history like?

I believe from what I read that many BB's are on gear all year round.
Since my sides were minor and my previous blood test was good so I just continued my test enanthate and some tren acetate. My gains were good.
My history is many years experience with many types of a.s.
My doctor is not aware and he would simply say to stop this etc...

I use: propecia 0.25mg/day, letrozole when needed, high VitB, 10,000U HCG
every 6 months, Isopure protein and various vitamins etc.

I feel much better after yesterday's 400mg test inj. but I understand that at some point soon I will need to give the body a rest and let the liver enzymes go down . Although there was much written in the chemical forum by pullinbig and others that the raised liver and cholesterol is not to worry about and it is all reversable.? But you need to monitor it carefully so as not to overlook a situation where the liver may have been permanantly damaged?

 

[solcraft]

Are you takin Clomid with that nolva? you should do them together. ......QUOTE]
not needed- one or the other, most preffer nolva. you prob knew that

 

[Lucky13]

what sort off gains did you get ? Did you notice the gains slowed or were they steady ?

 

[DADAWG]

ive heard heavy lifting alone can cause a temporary jump in liver enzymes . take a week off in the gym and get rechecked .

 

[cycle]

I was making continuous good gains , the only hold back is the shoulder joint pain which I will fix with Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide -6 and there is another called Hex...? Just like others have stated , you can keep going 'all jacked up' on gear for a long time and if the sides don't get you down your joints will..... eventually fail. This is where some kind of growth hormone therapy intervention is needed.

I did not know about the heavy lifting raising enzymes. I will take time off training and gear in January and then get rechecked.
thank you

BTW : Nolvadex is OK but Clomid gets me so down I just wanna cry?

 

[Thoms]

Tren Acetate or Test Enanthate: which hurts liver?

Frankly, none of them, really.

 

[cycle]

thank you