Tren dose first time with tren

[J0n]

This will be my second cycle, I'm wanting to add tren to the mix.
My first one was just Test Cyp and Var. gained 20lbs was great but quite a bit of bloat. Everything I read on tren just makes me wanna start sooner! And yes diet was a little slack. I was under the influence I should eat everything in sight and I'm a by eater. This second go round I plan on having a much cleaner leaner diet. Goal is to gain 10lbs muscle and shred off 10 of fat if possible.

So the question comes for a Test E Tren E cycle what should a guy run it at. I have read quite a few articles and diffrent threads on dosages and everyone is diffrent yes but the more I read into it the more I'm now hearing people are running their tren higher than their test..

I was gonna do weeks 1-12 test E 500/wk
2-16 arimidex .25ED
3-10 Tren E 250/wk

10-14 HCG 1000/wk


Post: chlomid 50/50/40/40 2 weeks After last shot.

I know everyone's gonna tell me to start out with Tren A but I'm undicided on this due to ED pinnin would suck, and I don't enjoy pinnin at all. A lot of readings are also saying to use either caber or parmi to combat the insomnia, curious as to Wich is now perffered as well.

Oh and I will probably be running 40mg accutane pharmacy grade, because on my first cycle I fucked it up a little on the timing with HCG and chlomid, and got some bad acne coming off and well into and after post cycle..

Thoughts?? Please criticize, thanks

 

[KingBF]

i would run tren ace for your first tren run. reason being is you can stop if you get really bad sides and its out of your system in 5-7 days. you can pin EOD with tren ace you know. lots of people dont pin ED. id also run your hcg during your whole cycle and stop 4 days before pct instead of at the end, run it at 250iu 2x wk the whole cycle and a blast phase is up to you. lots of mixed opinions on doing a blast phase with hcg. i always run caber at .25mg x2 wk during my cycles with 19 nors(tren and deca). your diet will reflect your results more then the gear you put in your body. my test prop/tren ace cycle i started tren at 50mg eod and by the 4th week i upped it to 100md eod. only sides i had at 100mg eod was increased bp, sweating during day(not while i slept thank god) and always angry. i slept good at night though. that was my biggest concern. i also found the best pct for myself to be a nolva and clomid combo. 50mg clomid ed and 20mg nolva ed

 

[Rida5d]

Go with tren ace as stated above.

 

[J0n]

Okay agreed its a good idea to strt with tren A, I was thinking of pinnin everyday in hopes that I would have a more stable levels throught the cycle. Basically to prevent acne.

So a starting dose of 50mgEOD. what about the test run that at 500 still? Or will that be pointless to go that high as the tren will be competing for the same rceotors anyways?

King you Said Caber over parmi? Any major reasons or just availability?
And that's okay to run adex with the caber right?

Thanks for your guys input, still slightly confused on the test to tren ratio tho.

 

[Fish44]

Yes start with Tren ace not Tren E. If your wanting to cut then yes have your tren higher than your test. Now as for prami a lot of people get bad sides from it. So its best to run caber. But if you get caber make sure you get it in the pill form. For your test to tren ratio keep it like this. Say you run 400mgs of Tren ace a week run 200mgs-300mgs of Test a week. For me i would go with 300mgs of test. But you can go on 200mgs.

 

[Fish44]

Also and just like everyone said run hcg through the whole cycle.

 

[prisonsex]

Go with caber. Some guys get sides from parmi. I've not had any issues with caber. Also, there is no competition for receptor. Run your test high, run your test low, but make sure to run test. Some guys run test high with Tren. I do not. I get all the nasty Tren sides when I run test high. Personally I run my test at 200mg...yes testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) doses. At this level I can run the Tren high with vertually no sides.

As mentioned above run "A" the first time around... This compound is not a joke. Tren will absolutely make you it's bitch.

 

[DipKing]

Don't mess with tren. Not meant for things who aren't going to be slaughter after cycle..

 

[riprockwell]

If you are dead set on running tren, I would run tren A so you can get a feel for the compound. If you choose to run Tren E, I would run it for 12 weeks. Also, stick with Caber. Most guys I know do better on Caber. Prami is hit or miss for some guys. Take .5mg twice per week of Caber. As for your tren dosage, you can do what I did this last cycle and shoot 100mg on Mon, Wed, Friday. I ran my usual testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose of 100mg per week of test. I would put your test at 200-300mg per week and your Tren at 300mg per week. You will really enjoy the cycle if you can handle the Tren sides.