Up'ed to 200ML a week

[Athens-M50]

went back to DR. yesterday....feeling a little better....but NOT like some of you guys are feeling.....Levels at 450( from 2 months of 100ML Cpy a week)....Dr up'ed me to 200ML a week of Cpy.

maybe that will bump my levels up to where I can really start feeling like I did in my youth!

 

[30yostarter]

wow, thats a whole lotta oil!! I think u mean mg, not ml

 

[halfwit]

wow, thats a whole lotta oil!! I think u mean mg, not ml

Haha, good catch. I think I've been here too long as I don't even look at units anymore. ><

Don't be surprised OP if he drops you down to 150/wk as I have a feeling that's going to put you over the upper range by a smidgeon. GREAT doctors don't care if you're *slightly* over, but average (read: Most docs) tend to try to keep you smack dab in the middle of that retarded range which includes sick and dying 80 year old men. Good luck!

 

[Schweddy]

whatls your height, weight and age? What was your protocol before the 100 cyp/week?

 

[Athens-M50]

5' 7"
230
44yrs

felt a bit better on 100 Cpy....could tell a difference.....but not "like I'm 16 again"...as some of you claim

we will see

 

[Schweddy]

200 is a large dose. You may need Aromatase inhibitor (AI), especially at your weight. It might take more than 8 weeks to see/feel results. Good luck.

 

[Athens-M50]

wow,,,,2 months?....didnt know it would take that long to feel it.

AI for ???

 

[halfwit]

wow,,,,2 months?....didnt know it would take that long to feel it.

AI for ???

Ahhh, another doctor that's willing to pump you full of testosterone but doesn't manage your estrogen that inevitably comes trodding along with it. AI's are used to prevent your body from creating excess estradiol from what it feels to be an overabundance of testosterone. This is done by the production of the aromatase enzyme (hence Aromatase inhibitor (AI) = Aromatase Inhibitor) which just happens to reside mostly in your fat stores. Excess estradiol (E2) can make you feel just as bad as low T as it increases blood pressure and many other nasty side effects. I would strongly suggest you get that measured with a simple blood test and see if your doc (unlikely) is willing to supplement with an AI.

A word of caution: Many docs will think that they need to lower testosterone dosages as estradiol climbs, which may or may not be in your best interests. If you feel he is not sufficiently educated in the treatment of your hormone situation, it may be a good idea to start shopping for a new doctor.

 

[Spudstr]

200 feels awesome

yes, why yes it does. i split mine into 100x2 week. tuesday and friday. I feel even better now.

 

[Mprtz]

I feel great on 200 a week, but I am getting some side effects. Definitely got some acne going on my back

 

[Good.2.Go]

Ahhh, another doctor that's willing to pump you full of testosterone but doesn't manage your estrogen that inevitably comes trodding along with it. AI's are used to prevent your body from creating excess estradiol from what it feels to be an overabundance of testosterone. This is done by the production of the aromatase enzyme (hence Aromatase inhibitor (AI) = Aromatase Inhibitor) which just happens to reside mostly in your fat stores. Excess estradiol (E2) can make you feel just as bad as low T as it increases blood pressure and many other nasty side effects. I would strongly suggest you get that measured with a simple blood test and see if your doc (unlikely) is willing to supplement with an AI.

A word of caution: Many docs will think that they need to lower testosterone dosages as estradiol climbs, which may or may not be in your best interests. If you feel he is not sufficiently educated in the treatment of your hormone situation, it may be a good idea to start shopping for a new doctor.

My doc started me on 200mcg E14D's. I don't feel like I'm taking anything. Contradicting though, on day 7 I begin feeling tired, moody, & anxiety creeps in. So I started taking half the amount weekly. I don't feel any better but it helps with the crash. May seem weird but that is they best way I can explain it. By the way when I asked my Dr. about an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) he stated it was only prescribed for cancer patients. I haven't experienced any need for it but was concerned that he would not prescribe after all I have read on here. I'm seriously thinking of switching over to IMT instead of having a diabetes Dr. trying to treat a patient with low-T & not understand how to do so. Didn't mean to stomp on your thread concerning myself; just hoping to share my experiences thus far. By the way I had to insist on blood work for E2. He questioned why was I even concerned about it. Geezzz. Good luck to all!

 

[1693]

My doc started me on 200mcg E14D's. I don't feel like I'm taking anything. Contradicting though, on day 7 I begin feeling tired, moody, & anxiety creeps in. So I started taking half the amount weekly. I don't feel any better but it helps with the crash. May seem weird but that is they best way I can explain it. By the way when I asked my Dr. about an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) he stated it was only prescribed for cancer patients. I haven't experienced any need for it but was concerned that he would not prescribe after all I have read on here. I'm seriously thinking of switching over to IMT instead of having a diabetes Dr. trying to treat a patient with low-T & not understand how to do so. Didn't mean to stomp on your thread concerning myself; just hoping to share my experiences thus far. By the way I had to insist on blood work for E2. He questioned why was I even concerned about it. Geezzz. Good luck to all!

The description of your doc is very commonly found by many others....inept....but these forums educate a guy fairly well. You can get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on your own if you wanted to or like you said the IMT folks are well equiped to help you.
You sound like maybe you could use more than 100mg of test per week, what did your last blood work show your TT at?

 

[Good.2.Go]

The description of your doc is very commonly found by many others....inept....but these forums educate a guy fairly well. You can get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on your own if you wanted to or like you said the IMT folks are well equiped to help you.
You sound like maybe you could use more than 100mg of test per week, what did your last blood work show your TT at?

Dr. said that NO blood work is needed until July 16th. Never questioned why so long to wait. He did mention that we may even double the amount if needed. That would be 200mcg with no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or HCG. If it wasn't for this form I would just have gone along with it. Now I uncertain as to what to do. As of now my insurance covers all but $8.00 for script. If I switch to IMT it will be extremely higher but they are specialist. Still uncertain which road to travel?????

 

[GoPro]

200 is a large dose. You may need Aromatase inhibitor (AI), especially at your weight. It might take more than 8 weeks to see/feel results. Good luck.

That aint a large does. Thats about standard for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) maybe 250mgs per week. I would think of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) though.

 

[1693]

Dr. said that NO blood work is needed until July 16th. Never questioned why so long to wait. He did mention that we may even double the amount if needed. That would be 200mcg with no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or HCG. If it wasn't for this form I would just have gone along with it. Now I uncertain as to what to do. As of now my insurance covers all but $8.00 for script. If I switch to IMT it will be extremely higher but they are specialist. Still uncertain which road to travel?????

How long since you started? You should have blood work done six weeks after starting with a sensitive E2 as one of the test.
You could always order your own tests for around $50 if you have a Labcorp nearby:
privatemdlabs.com

 

[Megatron28]

Read the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) stickies and they will show you how to get cheap blood tests among other things. And keep reading through old posts and then ask questions to learn about what testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocols tend to work best for other guys. Unfortunately, with moat doctors out there you will need to help direct your own treatment. To do that you need to come to your appointments armed with knowledge and information. You also need a doctor who is willing to listen to you. In other words you will hopefully become so smart about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) that your doc with simply become a means to getting a prescription.

 

[Allen_S]

250mg Test C weekly.

Here is what I did in 10 months, dialing in at 1000-1200 test level. Dr. sees 870. I have learned more on this site then my Dr. ever knew. Megatron said it best. Go in armed with knowlage. Learn how to dial in, and you will achieve max results in a short period of time....View attachment 551120View attachment 551121

 

[lucius11]

Yep, I'm at 200 per week. It's a good sized dose. I need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to control E levels. People are different, it may be a perfect dose for you with no Aromatase inhibitor (AI). No sense in trying to plan out all possible scenarios at this point. Why don't you just do your own blood work after one month and see where you are, e.g., privatemdlabs.com as mentioned above. Then you can decide whether you really need to make an adjustment.

 

[halfwit]

My doc started me on 200mcg E14D's. I don't feel like I'm taking anything. Contradicting though, on day 7 I begin feeling tired, moody, & anxiety creeps in. So I started taking half the amount weekly. I don't feel any better but it helps with the crash. May seem weird but that is they best way I can explain it. By the way when I asked my Dr. about an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) he stated it was only prescribed for cancer patients. I haven't experienced any need for it but was concerned that he would not prescribe after all I have read on here. I'm seriously thinking of switching over to IMT instead of having a diabetes Dr. trying to treat a patient with low-T & not understand how to do so. Didn't mean to stomp on your thread concerning myself; just hoping to share my experiences thus far. By the way I had to insist on blood work for E2. He questioned why was I even concerned about it. Geezzz. Good luck to all!

D'oh! All too common unfortunately. I'd definitely see about self-injects if you're not already and doing it at LEAST E7D if not more frequently. Otherwise you're seeing HUGE troughs and spikes which are not only going to make you feel like crap, but will inevitably increase your estradiol levels as that is what your body responds to - spikes in test. I can honestly say that if I was not a poor student, I would be on IMT's client list in a heart-beat. testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) with an HGH protocol? YES PLEASE.

Here is what I did in 10 months, dialing in at 1000-1200 test level. Dr. sees 870. I have learned more on this site then my Dr. ever knew. Megatron said it best. Go in armed with knowlage. Learn how to dial in, and you will achieve max results in a short period of time....View attachment 551120View attachment 551121

Dude, every time I see you post your results I just stare in disbelief. That is a HUGE transformation in only 10 months. While testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) most certainly played a part in it, you definitely had to have worked your ass off as well. Did you have to get surgery for the loose skin on your abs out of curiosity? I know many that lose weight so suddenly such as bariatric patients tend to require a tummy-tuck as the skin never fully tightens.

 

[Allen_S]

Yes I did after the first 50lbs, I busted my ass in the gym, and I still am. I'm hooked after seeing the changes. OMG Loose skin....I still have some, but not much on my lower back and lower stomach left. I am very surprised on how fast a lot of it did tighten up. The Dr. said if I keep going the way I am prob another 6-12 months to be total tight again, tummy tucks are not always the best solution, cardio and weight training will do it too, just takes longer.