WINNIE/PROP questions

[ostrich27]

I know you guys hate when noobs come on here and start asking questions that have probably already been answered in these forums, but I have searched a lot and read a lot, and I still cannot come to a concise conclusion to all my questions.
I am 21, 5'11, 190, about 8-10%bf. I have been lifting naturally since I was 16. All my gains are natural but I have been trying to get to 200 5-6% bf for what seems like FOREVER now (about 2 years of hardcore lifting and dieting, some college life drinking mixed in there too).
My friend who has the same measurements suggested that I do 8 weeks of Test Propionate with him, and then stack it with Winnie inject towards the end to cut up, while taking arimidex throughout to block estrogenic problems (I have gyno already, don’t wana aggravate that shit). We are also doing post cycle therapy (pct) with nolvadex.
My questions are as follows:
1. Is it necessary for me to use testosterone to get the gains I am looking for? Because I always felt like if I ran just Winnie for like 6-8, didn’t drink at all, and ate really clean like a fucking soldier I would get good gains. People argue that if I did this, I would not see much in terms of results, PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS QUESTION THE MOST.
2. Will I lose my hair, or get depressed? Because my life is going really well now, and though I would like to get bigger I am afraid that doing this cycle will completely fuck my life up, or cause me to make stupid decisions affecting my life I otherwise wouldn’t make if not on the juice. and I am wondering if and where I can get finasteride for my hair. I AM SPECIFICALLY AFRAID OF DEPRESSION, please help with this if you know how the depression mechanism works with steroids.
3. I am generally an aggressive guy already, and I was thinking I would smoke pot once in a while when im not doing anything just to calm my nerves so that I don’t kill people like a fucking raging Neanderthal. Opinions on this, or other suggestions to control rage?
4. I am prone to acne, is there anything I can do to minimize the breakouts that I will get while on test?
5. What is the best way to do a lean bulk for a noobster like me with the test and Winnie. I was thinking I would run test for 1-8, Winnie for 6-11, the last 3 weeks of Winnie being without the test at all. Or is it better to do the shorter cycle and stack the Winnie at the end and finish the cycle at 8 weeks and start post cycle therapy (pct).

I KNOW THESE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AND IM SORRY TO BOTHER YALL, BUT I AM REALLY NERVOUS BECAUSE MY GEAR COMES IN THIS WEEK AND IM SCARED SHITLESS, HELP!!

 

[richdimo]

Everyone is probably going to say your too young because you are, but you already have everything coming in, so someone might as well answer some of your questions.

1- Yes. Test should always be the base to your cycle.
2- Everyone is different, can't predict wether you will or won't loose your hair, a lot of people will also argue that "roid rage" is a myth. I agree with them, if you do get more aggressive, let it out in the gym on the weights. (can't help with the depression part though, but from my experiences and 3 cycles under my belt, i never have experienced it. Although it is a little depressing not being able to keep all the gains )

3- Why are you going into this cycle thinking it will make you crazy? I think it is mostly mind games, relax, don't make yourself think you have to rage on a cycle. As stated above, if you do get rage, know how to control yourself.

4-I too am prone to acne, but on cycle it seems to go away for some reason. Don't think there is any proven way to prevent it. Retin-a seems to be popular though.

5- As for the cycle i would use only the prop- 1-10 Prop EOD at 100mg(hope you like needles for a beginer) This way you know how your body reacts to the test.
If you are going to use the Winstrol (winny) though, week 5 or 6-10 EOD @50-100mg

Never ran nolva post cycle therapy (pct), I've always used clomid......
Adex works well at .5mg EOD to keep off bloat and battle gyno

Do a search on how to run nolva for post cycle therapy (pct), can't help you there, but i know it's on this board

Be safe

 

[roccodart440]

Hey ask questions. That's how you learn.

YOur size isn't bad. About the same size I was at that point in my life. If you put on more size attaining your goal will be easier. Stop cutting for a while and grow. YOu need to cycle yuour diet. If you diet all the time you'll never grow.

YOu can still get big at colege. Try to cut back a little on the drinking though.

WHy do you have gyno already? Pueberty? ALso don't stack your 1st cycle. Everyone will tell you that. It makes sense. Seee how your body reacts to the one comound and then build from there. Test, eq, anavar, primo areall viable 1st cycle compounds.

IMO Winstrol (winny) solo as a 1st cycle is a bad idea. Especially if you drink. YOu can eat plenty at college but don't kid yourself that you will stop drinking for 8 weeks. It's not going to happen. WInny is liver toxic and sucks the water out of your joints. This will be comounded by alchohol.

"Will I lose my hair?" - Maybe

"get depressed" - maybe, this is the idea behind a single compound cycle. It wil let you see if these things happen. WHat compound is causing the prob etc.

If your unsure if your ready it won't hurt to hold off. YOu can get boigger natturally.

Smoking pot def helps with aggression and stress. Depression,,,well can't help you there. We all have ups and downs. Arnold smoked weed. I still do. It helps with your appetite too. I think used properly it goes great with gear.

Acne prone. Me too. I've heard about nizoral shampoo or somthing like that. Tanning helps mine.

Lean bulk would come from a compound that doesn't cause you to bloat.

If I were you i'd hold off a while and get some more ideas and knowledge and save your money. This cycleing thing isn't cheap.

 

[ostrich27]

Rocco, i've gone 8 weeks without drinking. I'm not a big drinker, so if i did the winnie, I know its toxic to the liver, there is no way in fucking hell i would drink while im on it. The only reason i even wana do this is b/c i have no will power to not drink if im on like creatine or some bullshit. If i know im taking something as toxic as winnie, I would not drink, does this change ur opinion on a winnie-only cycle?

 

[ostrich27]

and yes i got a little bit of gyno through puberty, its really fuckin annoying.

 

[roccodart440]

Rocco, i've gone 8 weeks without drinking. I'm not a big drinker, so if i did the winnie, I know its toxic to the liver, there is no way in fucking hell i would drink while im on it. The only reason i even wana do this is b/c i have no will power to not drink if im on like creatine or some bullshit. If i know im taking something as toxic as winnie, I would not drink, does this change ur opinion on a winnie-only cycle?

Impressive. You will is certainly better than mine was at 21. But none of that changes my opinion about a Winstrol (winny) only cycle.

 

[tommy_big_guns]

roid rage.. if you an ass before you take steroids you will be a bigger ass on them.
winny is a weak steriod for putting on size imo. you don't bulk up and then cutt up in the same 12 week cycle.. pick one. 500mg week of test your going to see some good gains if you consume enough calories

 

[wayner]

You should think about 500/week of a longer acting Test such as Cypionate or Enthanate.

You will do less injections with this ester. Also I would NOT run Winstrol in this cycle.

Clean the diet up, cut down or stop alcohol consumption while on cycle and for 4 weeks after and have Nolvadex on hand.