wrong PCT?.. help please

[hitman00777]

Hi guys, I did my first cycle with T-bol (40 mg/day) and winstrol (30 mg/day) for 5 weeks.. in the end of my cylcle I was reducing doses of both things.. after that I did post cycle therapy (pct) with Clomid for 3 weeks.. after post cycle therapy (pct) I couldn´t have sex for next 3 weeks and I completely lost libido..
What did I wrong??
I´m 21 years old..
Now I want to do my 2nd cycle and no matter what I use I want to avoid this problems.. Thank you for helping me!

 

[ECKSRATED]

I have no experience with either of those but that is a dumb cycle man. What made u do that? Affraid of needles or somethin?? I know tbol and dbol shut people down very hard and if u have no test as a base then it will be even harder. Always run test with anything else u decide on taking. Maybe the other guys that have experience with that garbage can help u out.

 

[hitman00777]

I have no experience with either of those but that is a dumb cycle man. What made u do that? Affraid of needles or somethin?? I know tbol and dbol shut people down very hard and if u have no test as a base then it will be even harder. Always run test with anything else u decide on taking. Maybe the other guys that have experience with that garbage can help u out.

It was my 1st cycle so I wanted to do somenthing without needles.. It gave me only 7lbs. I though that use of testosterone shut me even more than this stuff..
I visited my doctor after my post cycle therapy (pct) and he analyzed my blood and told me that my testosterone levels are normal.. but I knew I wasn´t ok.. could the problem be lack of other hormones.. LH?

 

[rocko3927]

i am no pro.... but imo you need to do all cycles with test as the base. simple and safe....btw what the fuck r u using anobolic steroids at 21????? stay off the juice, eat right, and take advantage of your nat test levels as long as u can......just my opinion friend. i do wish u well....

 

[bigpattywak]

bad cycle was your problem

 

[tednatas]

Hi guys, I did my first cycle with T-bol (40 mg/day) and winstrol (30 mg/day) for 5 weeks.. in the end of my cylcle I was reducing doses of both things.. after that I did post cycle therapy (pct) with Clomid for 3 weeks.. after post cycle therapy (pct) I couldn´t have sex for next 3 weeks and I completely lost libido..
What did I wrong??
I´m 21 years old..
Now I want to do my 2nd cycle and no matter what I use I want to avoid this problems.. Thank you for helping me!

Ride it out dude... Do NOT cycle again right away. Time on plus post cycle therapy (pct) equals time off. Don't want to be shut down forever dude. No point in killing yourself over what happened in the past. Just learn from it

 

[tednatas]

Any advice "Det Oak"?

 

[rubicon09]

whats in tbol?? some of these otc pro hormones are made to mimic 19nor as well so your prolactin might be high just a though...

 

[hitman00777]

Ride it out dude... Do NOT cycle again right away. Time on plus post cycle therapy (pct) equals time off. Don't want to be shut down forever dude. No point in killing yourself over what happened in the past. Just learn from it

I want to learn from it.. But I am affraid that after my next cycle I will have the same problem..
So.. when my next cycle will be base on testosterone and I´ll do proper post cycle therapy (pct).. Loss of libido will be minor? How long will it take than my natural level will be normal?

 

[hitman00777]

whats in tbol?? some of these otc pro hormones are made to mimic 19nor as well so your prolactin might be high just a though...

T-bol = chlordehydromethyltestosterone
and it has androgenic/anabolic ratio: 6/53.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

it was just a crappy cycle with no Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) so it may take longer to recover. not having test as a base was one of your problems.

 

[BigBlackguy]

it was just a crappy cycle with no HCG so it may take longer to recover. not having test as a base was one of your problems.

I've never heard that a test base can help prevent shutdown or at least reduce shutdown. Is that what you're saying here? Someone above eluded to that as well. Sounds very interesting.

At 5 weeks a lot of guys use the TRS and recover fine. I'm surprised that someone using clomid would have trouble recovering from merely 5 weeks.

Get blood tests done before you cycle again. You need to know if you're baseline or not.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Im not saying it would help recovery, but it would help shorten the time that your penis didnt work thats for sure.

 

[Italiano SPO]

it was just a crappy cycle with no HCG so it may take longer to recover. not having test as a base was one of your problems.

Agreed....very bad cycle to begin with and doesn't sound like you did very much research at all before you starting taking what you did. Start from scratch and do it right this time.

 

[BigBlackguy]

Im not saying it would help recovery, but it would help shorten the time that your penis didnt work thats for sure.

lol well alright then. The Androseries is coming out soon. Andromass and Androhard can be used as test-bases. But I'm sure you guys will wait for the write-ups to be released before making your decisions on them.

 

[ryansm]

lol well alright then. The Androseries is coming out soon. Andromass and Androhard can be used as test-bases. But I'm sure you guys will wait for the write-ups to be released before making your decisions on them.

As they should, I know I am.